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If he is a cuntwaffle why did he get the majority of the votes in the U.S. last election (77.3 million) and it was considered a landslide?

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Je n’ai subit aucun lavage de cerveau. Je suis un indĂ©pendant. Je ne soutiens aucun parti. Je juge les politiques aux rĂ©sultats. Depuis 50 ans que je suis les situations politiques de la planĂšte, je peux dire sereinement que Trump sera comme les autres. Un beau parleur, qui va d’abord et avant tout dĂ©fendre ses propres intĂ©rĂȘt. L’amĂ©ricain moyen, il s’en moque totalement. Et arrĂȘter de dire Ă  tout le monde qu’ils ont subit un lavage de cerveau, plus vous le dites, plus ont perçois que ces vous qui avait subit un lavage de cerveau. Vous avez perdu votre objectivitĂ©. Votre capacitĂ© Ă  prendre du recul.

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AND
he wasn’t “convicted” of that, it was a civil suit judgement(An absurd one at that IMO). Back to the show


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You stated, “I judge politicians by results.” If that is true than why do you hate (I assume) President Trump? He was president for four years with results: You have been brainwashed not to think for yourself or you would take into account President Trump:
‱ Basically closed the border.
‱ Inflation rate when he left was 1.4%.
‱ No wars.
‱ The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.
‱ Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000
‱ Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
‱ Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
‱ Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
‱ Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
‱ Created more than 1.2 million manufacturing and construction jobs.
‱ During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1 percent – the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.
‱ Signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act – the largest tax reform package in history.
‱ Imposed tariffs on hundreds of billions worth of Chinese goods to protect American jobs and stop China’s abuses under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974.
‱ For the first time in nearly 70 years, the United States had become a net energy exporter.

I could go on and on. There are hundreds of accomplishments that happened while President Trump was in office.
Why don’t you stop reading and listening to liberal propaganda and find out how great President Trump was while he was in office during his first term. His second term will even be better. So the bottom line is you have no objectivity and you do not judge politicians by their results.

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  • Trump will not ends wars simply because he wants to start hostilities with Panama and Greenland. He is threatening China, Mexico and Canada


  • “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” this is in the constitution


  • with the number you provide us many times and from the 2024 census
    US population 341 203 965
    Your magical number 77 300 000
    you are 22.6% supporting trump it leave a little more than 77%. This includes a whole bunch of women that lose their liberty of choice, A good portion that wants to move forward with the evolution and live in a cleaner environment by leaving behind the dinosaurs. They don’t know yet but all those children that will be raised in censured schools (Brainwashed?). Another good percentage is from the ones that will pay 25% more for their goods. Maybe some also that are too unfortunate and sick that won’t be allowed to live anymore
 I can keep going


  • Concerns about President Donald Trump’s authoritarian tendencies have been raised due to several recent actions that appear to challenge democratic norms and the constitutional balance of power. Notable examples include:

  • National Emergency Declaration: In early 2025, Trump declared a national emergency at the southern border to secure funds for the border wall and deploy reservists, bypassing congressional approval. Critics argue this move undermines Congress’s constitutional role and could harm military preparedness.

  • Executive Orders Targeting Federal Agencies: Trump issued an executive order titled “Ending the Weaponization of the Federal Government,” enabling investigations and potential punishment of perceived adversaries within federal bureaucracy. This order targets departments like the DOJ and FTC, accusing them of betraying Trump and his supporters.

  • Pardoning January 6 Rioters: Trump granted full pardons to 1,500 individuals involved in the January 6 Capitol riots, including violent offenders. This action has been criticized for legitimizing political violence and setting a dangerous precedent.

Trump is doing what he wants to do when he want to do. there is no law or rule good enough for him. He is starving for power
 his power.

as for a civil war
 Ask yourself what you want and how you can have it. Please explain what you have in mind to get rid of the liberals. Don’t forget that you are also regarded as brainwashed from the other side.

At the end, republican and democrats have good and bad plans. There are some very good ideas from the republicans that would change the United States in a good way. Unfortunately, the way the message is transmitted is not the best way to unite but the best way to separate the voters. Please remember divide and conquer. Just take a minute and read what it means exactly.
The best stable approach is to gather all votes, being one voice and moving all in the same direction. This is what USA did in the past and this is what they need to do again if they want to stop their descent and be great again. As long as the country will be divided (very far and different opposed corners)
 it won’t be great again. To be great you need to be unified first. Trump will never try to unify the peoples. He is very far from Ronald Reagan who has succeeded in uniting the population.

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I enter in this conversation for a very brief and unique comment.
I am with you on a lots of what you listed. The party should work hard in a democratic way to solve those things as I am certain that many democrats feels the same for some of those points and laws could be voted and appreciated by many. Trump is not the right person to do it. He is far away from being a diplomat and all his speeches are controversial. He is not trying to unite the citizen to vote for a good plan. he is creating a conflictual environment. the more he will try to bully his way the more he will receive injonctions and restrictions. and the more he will divise the USA. Let him do the talk for four years but restrain the changes he want to impose to a minimum. start now
 not tomorrow or yesterday. bring the next candidat to the front ASAP and get one that know a bit more about politic and that has a minimum of diplomacy. Great ideas can go far when shared as compared to imposed. Work to make USA great has only one path and its through unification.

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You asked why someone would vote for democrats without saying negative things about Republicans, i answered without bashing the republicans. Your response is to say i am wrong, i am brainwashed, and listed a bunch of negative things about democrats. Apparently this is not a civil debate or conversation, so i will politely excuse myself from this thread. I am probably the most dislike member of American society anyway: the non-party affiliated Independent registered voter. Both sides want my vote, but they never know which side i am on. Good night, everyone! Stay safe!

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Trump will not ends wars simply because he wants to start hostilities with Panama and Greenland. He is threatening China, Mexico and Canada


– Zero evidence as he wants to start wars especially since he has done nothing but end wars, Afghanistan, now Isreal/Palestine and soon to be Ukraine.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” this is in the constitution –

– obviously and he is challenging the verbiage of “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” and most likely won’t pass the Supreme court.

with the number you provide us many times and from the 2024 census
US population 341 203 965
Your magical number 77 300 000
you are 22.6% supporting trump it leave a little more than 77%


– what insane math
. He won the majority vote which a republican has not done since 2004. In addition, only 50-65% of the American population votes so that is some really skewed math.

Concerns about President Donald Trump’s authoritarian tendencies have been raised due to several recent actions that appear to challenge democratic norms and the constitutional balance of power. Notable examples include:

– Again, wild assumptions with no established precedent


National Emergency Declaration: In early 2025, Trump declared a national emergency at the southern border to secure funds for the border wall and deploy reservists, bypassing congressional approval. Critics argue this move undermines Congress’s constitutional role and could harm military preparedness. –

– Both parties challenge historical norms, and this is well within his powers and not unusual. Similar to JFK use of the National Guard during the civil right riots or in natural disaster areas.

Executive Orders Targeting Federal Agencies: Trump issued an executive order titled “Ending the Weaponization of the Federal Government,” enabling investigations and potential punishment of perceived adversaries within federal bureaucracy. This order targets departments like the DOJ and FTC, accusing them of betraying Trump and his supporters.

– Trump is regularly accused of weaponizing the DOJ without any proof that he has, but Biden did with the Russian Hoax, Hunter Laptop, and social media censorship pressure. In addition, they prevent JFK and Dean Phillips from challenging Biden in the Primaries in a very thuggish way.

Pardoning January 6 Rioters: Trump granted full pardons to 1,500 individuals involved in the January 6 Capitol riots, including violent offenders. This action has been criticized for legitimizing political violence and setting a dangerous precedent.

– There has been quite a bit of evidence of FBI encouragement by informants to commit acts against the country to drum up arrests, this was one of them along with attempted kidnapping of Gretchen Whitmer in addition to the pardoning of Joe Bidens family and Anthony Fauci who is accused of directing Gain-of-Function Research which caused him to suppress the Lab Leak Theory and possibly be responsible for up to 7 Million dead and 28 Trillion in losses, but I guess we will never know


You can’t be selective in your facts to prove your own narrative and make assumptions where no historical basis exists.

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This topic will be amazingly fun to read after 4 years, from one or another perspective.

Given the current world order/politics, where we have a polarisation of which the world has never seen before, what could possibly go wrong


Predicting the future is always a rather elusive act, but history should teach us something: there have only ever been two ways of dealing with this situation on this planet. And neither of them is civilisationally “favourable”.

As a well-known voice has said, the sad thing is that as we evolve, we become bigger and bigger idiots. I would change that a little, we are becoming stronger and stronger idiots as we develop.

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Never mind 4 years ,this topic became funny as fuck to read after the first 4 comments :crazy_face:

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Jules Cesar en sait quelque chose
c’est aussi pour ça que Staline faisait tout goĂ»ter , entre-autres
lol
Et j’ai lu quelque part ,en anglais, que les premiers ennemis des amĂ©ricains sont les amĂ©ricains!

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Samson – great job on setting the record straight detailing how all of Juwan’s comments were wrong! Thank you!
I do want to add my opinion on something Juwan stated. He does not think President Trump will unify this country. BULLSHIT! He is the only one who can unify this country! He is not a corrupt politician. He does not need the money, obviously, and he wants to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. I guess that is why I like him. I think he is wants to be president to help this country. Why would he go through all the stuff he has had to, i.e.: Russia-Russia-Russia, impeachments, lawsuits, being called a Nazi, racist, rapist, homophobic, xenophobic, transphobic, criminal, a threat to democracy (just to name a few), tried to bankrupt him, two assassination attempts, etc, etc, etc. Why would he go through all of this and still wants to be president? He could have had a pretty great retirement but he chose to help this country. As far as unity, he will bring this country together by successfully doing what he said he will do while he is in office. He will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN which will unify this country! He is the only person that can bring this country together! I could go on and on.

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You stated, “this is not a civil debate or conversation.” I thought my response to your comment was very cordial. Yeah, there was some sarcasm but overall I thought it was very,cordial! I apologize since you thought differently about my response!

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Republican Andy Ogles has introduced a proposal to amend the Constitution, allowing Trump to serve a third term as president, because Trump’s leadership is essential to “restore America’s greatness”.

We’ve seen this somewhere before
Hmmm
 :thinking:

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I appreciate the follow up but you lose me on those points. He is not a unifying figure based upon his inflammatory words and random accusations. He also takes a lot of opportunities to increase his wealth through the office of the president, ie $trump meme, merchandise and using his hotels for govt functions. I believe he really loves the attention and has a strange desire to by like/loved by people which drives his decision making.

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I guess we will agree to disagree. I read a report that his net worth went from $3.7 billion to $2.5 billion while he was in office during his first term. I really do not think he is in it for the money. If he is not a unifying figure why did he get more votes (percentage) from blacks and Hispanics? I think you are right that he loves the attention but what is wrong with that?

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3,7 milliard ou 2,5 milliard de dollars. Peu importe. Soyez assez intelligent pour ne pas Ă©crire des informations que vous n’ĂȘtes pas en mesure de vĂ©rifier. Aujourd’hui c’est le rĂšgne des fausses informations. Soyez humble. Ça ne pourra que vous ĂȘtre bĂ©nĂ©fique

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Yes. Where’s the war? There will be none. Its called a tactic.

Here is where you lose all credibility. Trump is worse than Hitler? That is a moronic take. How many people did he murder/exterminate his first 4 years?

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Thats the lefts tactic. When they can’t have an honest debate, they turn to name calling and insults. You know, like 5 year olds do.

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same on right, that s politic game

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