I was not aware that Mikl fucked her on Jan 9, Just Tejo was making out and diving into her panty, and sucking her pussy after Jirina had taken the panty off.
When Jirina tried to lead Indira out of the livingroom, she refused.
Later Mikl and Tejo were “working” on her in the kitchen, but Mikl fucking her is not visible, i.e. not documented in the archive. 9 Jan was a big party at M&H to the best of my knowledge.
Does anybody know what Mira is comforting Indira for?
Earlier Indira and Kostja were on the loggia for smoking.
Indira said something to Kostja in low voice, which caused Kostja to raise his voice and
used a word that sounded like phantasia a couple of times.
I was under the impression, that they were arguing about the intention / possibility
to return into the project, but can be totally wrong and she wants to buy a house or whatever.
Indira stopped the conversation when Shana and Elisha came to the loggia.
Well Indira seemed very pissed off for the rest of the evening after the little altercation in the loggia. The last hour after the kitchen discussion she was very cold towards Kostja, not sure what caused it, but she did perk up when Kostja was eating her, otherwise they looked very distant with each other, no touching or eye contact.
After they left the project and were just socialising with friends, they seemed very relaxed and happy. Now they seem stressed and Indira is back to the “fuck me” makeup, exposing herself and being groped by Henry at every opportunity. I find it difficult to watch Indira version 2, as it seems they are going through the same issues again, this is like it was back in Feb / March when they were having problems.
This party was January 10 at M&M, where Elisha, Shana, marica, mikl, and kostja had an orgy in the living room
I was talking about this.
party started on 8th jan and went til 7 AM or so.
It’s in the archive for 8th jan, almost 6 hr clip.
and the Indira-Kostja-fuck-file and kitchen-clip is on the 9th.
That’s what I noticed, and Henry made comments that she is only busy with her cell-phone.
Just have no clue, if she wanted to “play” and he told/asked her not to, or the other way around, plus the phantasy-thing doesn’t fit in somehow.
Together with Mira’s comforting in the kitchen, I was under the impression, that they were told: " sorry no place for you…", but that is just reading bodylanguage, which can be interpreted totally wrong.
I was hoping somebody had understood the sense of the conversation, maybe it was about their next holiday. 
There was a brief “word in the ear” from Mira to Indira when they were leaving the Living Room , it appeared to be very friendly and body language suggested Mira saying “Don’t worry , I will fix it”. I get the feeling that they were planning an evening alone with just I&H , M & K but the presence of the other three was not what Kostja would ideally like and therefore Indira didn’t want to upset him. She stripped off at the first opportunity…Henry’s job , of course , and then when it should have been Kostja’s turn to disrobe her she clearly said Niet and asked Henry to do it , followed by him suckling her boobs and sharing long kissing bout…it seemed only a matter of time before they would be fucking…but it looks like Indira doesn’t want any other males than K&H to be involved , so it was a no-go.
I didn’t get that niet, when Henry undressed her.
But later, there was a conversation between Kostja and Henry, when Indira sat in Henry’s arms, kinda over her head,
and what it looked like was talking about her doing something or not, and she said a clear niet.
From the way Kostja looked, making her suggestions pointing to direction Henry,
one could have thought, Kostja is trading her for a price or whatever to Henry. (i.e. to service him)
But I know. don’t know the language, have no clue of what they said.
I wish we understood, because Indira shouldn’t have to strip at every party the way shana does, just so Henry can get his jollies
I think it is more predator than prey from Indira at these times. Henry was clothed for most of the night but Indira had no qualms about undressing for him.
I don’t see she is a predator. She undressed because it was part of the game app that Mira’s was using on her phone. Its the same app that was being used this afternoon with Artura, and that Kostja was using when Victoria visited.
…and Indira “won” 4 times out of the first six turns…all to Henry’s benefit as she wouldn’t let anyone else come between them.
Yes because Mira was controlling it if you listen to the audio.
Indira knows what the game is, she does not have to be undressed for Henry to grope and kiss her. He always makes a be line for her whenever she is there, and most of the time she ignores his attention and carries on with any conversation that she is having, its a game and pays the bills I assume as they unfortunately keep coming back.
I actually think Henry is the founder member of the IFC, as he is more obsessed with her than some of you are.
Don’t forget what vhtv is all about, and for what the participants get the money
Indira ist verknallt bis hinter beiden Ohren in Henry! Das sieht doch jeder Blinde.
I think some people need to get rid of the scheme that getting nude on vhtv is a punishment of any kind. Same as for having sex in front of camera.
It’s the main purpose of vhtv, and the art to attract viewers is to wrap it into something interesting.
If it were two people get in the room undress and fuck and leave, that would be sex to watch OK, but it’s boring after a while, especially If it’s always the same pairing. The end for lots of marriages.
Therefor some couples decided to get an occasional change, and are happy with it.
Vhtv creates that type of environment for the viewers, and all participants know this. They are like actors that come to work… For our entertainment. And if they wouldn’t want to show their pussies and titts and penisses to a web audience, they wouldn’t.
Simple as that. If there are parties with or without Indira it’s not a matter of do they get naked and fucked, it’s a matter of when and how and with whom.
They don’t get punished, they work for the money.
Discussable why some people chose this job, but they all should be adults with a capacity to decide.
Jmo
Isn’t there a specific name for men and women like that who fit that criteria or would i be causing offence by even mentioning/suggesting that 
I don’t think you could class them as actors though as they are not representing others as a profession but themselves
Je proposerai exhibitionnistes, il y en a aussi dans la vraie vie !
I said before, they are sex-workers, to not call them other things like prostitutes.
At times the IFC wanted to hang me for that, but I still say, they are paid for doing sexual things for a
public audience. And one can think what one wants to call that.
The actor thing doesn’t mean, they play another character, but they display a life-environment, that I consider is not their daily routine outside the camera-life.
If I consider the amount of personal belongings of I&K in the closet in the GBR at TJIK, I don’t think that is the average fundus of 20-year-old (or close) young people.
I think that was their working-environment where they acted for the pleasure and entertainment of paying
viewers.
They only escaped that into real life on their midnight-shopping-trips or the visits to parents etc.
So I would think, in front of cameras it’s role-play, and thus one could call them actors.
Or do you think they visit M&H because they are so dear friends?
That I would have condidered possible (comined with the money-making) at MWK or would still
as far as Shana is concerned. The visit to Jirina, and oct 1st at M&H I see as full commercial staged
activities.
When Indira said good-bye to Jirina leaving Shana’s, and hugged and kissed her, I was sure that in not too long time there would be a visit at Jirina, but the way Jirina behaved when I&K left TJIK with their last things, I would not have thought, they are close friends to visit.