I tried to listen in on the agitated conversation in the logia. It was not easy to understand the context of the conversation. Mostly because Indira’s voice was low most of the time. However, she appeared to make some demand on Kostja - not sure what - while Kostja was angrily telling her to not rush him. At some point he took a point of something some woman ( she) was telling Indira and which Indira appeared to like and Kostja was angrily screaming, that what she is telling you is a fantasy. The word ‘fantasy’ came up several times. I do not know the context of what was being argued about.
just my thoughts here appears Indira wants to play but Kostja not so much maybe if they want this relationship to work would be best to stay away from these parties seems to cause conflict between them
The thing is Kostja has had fun with both Elisha and shana, so why wouldn’t he be ok having fun with them
Whilst some continue to use people and pay people for their own and others use there will always be conflicts. Perhaps some earn more than others and think they are more important than others who knows, but in the seedy world of sex and pimping there is a continual undercurrent of jealousy between all.
Some will never learn, some do not want to learn as long as the material benefits continue.
In a way it is sad to watch as you know only too well any of them only have a limited life span of action until younger and better looking bodies replace them.
Maybe because they don’t attract him anymore?
i understand that and i don’t know why they both can’t get on the same page just seems like it’s been like this all along so maybe they just need to sit down and decide if they both want this lifestyle are just a real relationship together this life will not last forever but a good relationship can
Whatever they do I just want to see Indira smile and give her all again to whoever she chooses.
But these parties are where the money is…
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you are right about that it’s all about the money but if you really have a great relationship and it’s for real people do get jobs and make money and have a good life together
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I’ve lost track how many times it looks like they’re fighting, but the low voices that make it hard for our translating friend to understand them, i still believe their love will lead the way in the end
Probably vhtv at the moment is the easiest way to make money. As we learned Indira hasn’t finished her education, and thus will most certain not find a well paid job outside the sex business.
As far as kostja goes I have no information, and as a cook he will not make as much money as a laborer, unless he is a certified chef.
So yes, having work, and celebrating your love at home is of course the better way, but first you have to have a home, and second a job that pays for it.
Maybe they make a mix calculation and get the basepay by flipping burgers, and vhtv puts the money on top for personal needs and wishes.
If so, and they have a goal, it’s easier to arrange with the demands and requirements of vhtv.
A steady relationship is helpful, I agree.
Jmo
yes, just your opinion.
Life in Russia is in crisis mode. Restaurants and other places have seen business slow down as a result.
We do not know what is Indira’s level of education. We practically know nothing except that she was a student. We do not know where and what she was studying. But from here to jump to the conclusion that the only thing left for her is sex work is highly demeaning to the millions of Russians or Americans or Canadians or Germans who while not having completed a higher education education are busy with all sort of work which is not sex work.
As for Kostja, we do not know either if he completed the cooking school where he studied. We do see that he is able to handle a kitchen very well. He is quite young, as is Indira. In a more stable economic situation there is no reason to imagine that he is destined to a life of poverty with the only choice left to him is as Indira’s pimp
You appear to have a very distorted view of life of ordinary people
very well put i wish them the very best in life
you got me totally wrong.
I said without an education you will not find a well paid job, and I’m pretty sure, that is a fact worldwide.
I recall somebody telling from a conversation between Kostja and Indira , when Indira was thinking of leaving the project, Kostja made a remark, that she hadn’t finished school, and I took that for granted.
Would have to go through realm 48 to find the passage.
Nonetheless, what I was trying to get across is, if young people like I&K have the experience they have with VHTV, struggle in the economy, that might not offer adequate jobs to provide a good quality of life, and these young people are offered an opportunity to make some extra money by visiting the VHTV-parties, and thus sing the song of the manager, they might take that opportunity with a heartbeat, and since they know what it’s for, are easier in accepting what they are requested to do, than someone who is unexperienced.
In addition to that I think it can be considered a fact, that it is easier to make big money in the sex-industry, than in a job, that requires qualification, preferrably with a certificate of school, especially if one doesn’t have that.
When I was young, I had a tendency to go the “easy” way, thought I was not the only one.
Bottom line:
We know too little about the situation of I&K to rate it, it’s all guestimate.
And that is why I marked it as my opinion.
And to point that out, I wish them only the best in life, I said that many times, I only wish for them to find the way that makes it easiest for them to accomplish their plans, and I have a heart for the young generation, who is not living in the easiest times nowadays.
JMO
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I thought last night Indira was a bit annoyed when kostja did nothing in the bedroom with mira when she got the massage
Could it be That she didn’t believe nothing happened
l felt kostja is very frightened to do something in front of everyone incase he flops 
I have no idea what type of money the various people involved with VHTV make. However, I doubt that they make such large amounts. One of the reasons I suspect that the money they make while probably adequate is not really huge is that for example when last spring there was the party food expenses crisis. Mira pulled in the entire team to scold them on their food expenditure largesse and Marica of using some of that money for her folks. Had the amount they make been that big, the cost of food would be perceived just as a business expense relatively small as compared to the revenue being brought in.
The fact that there was a crisis ( also related to the inflation in Russia), makes me wonder if the participants are really getting that rich at VHTV
I thought the lack of income compared to the expenses was because of the bank-lock down due to the beginning war-situation, and all international bank-transactions to/from Russia were blocked.
I think I remember, that Henry said sometimes later, that this issue is solved, and that Mira had used some of the personal funds to compensate for the participants, which was why there was the info-meeting in Shana’s bedroom.
I see when I buy my subscription, that there is no money-transfer to a russian bank.
So I think the metioned issue was temporary.
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As we’ve been told many times… VHTV is NOT based in Russia…
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I see when I buy my subscription, that there is no money-transfer to a russian bank.
@Jimmie140806. Thank you for your response. So maybe like many times in the past, the argument was not related to the current party, but something that had occurred previously which had been on Indira’s mind, and most likely fuelled by a_____l came to a head at the party. I think that Indira is still a very insecure young lady, and needs a lot of reassurance from Kostja about their relationship.
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