I do not follow individual states within the United States at all, but especially for you, I will ask someone in the know how this can be explained. But I am following Sweden, which has followed the path of minimal bans, and explaining to the population how to behave at this time of a pandemic. And although the Swedes are very, very disciplined people, and many voluntarily followed all the precautions, Sweden has shown very poor mortality results compared to neighboring countries. I have a feeling that, like most covid deniers, you only select facts that support your theories and discard those that contradict them. This is completely unscientific.
Я могу судить по ортодоксам которые приехали в Украину на празднование
Рош ха Шана или новый год. Я тоже там был. Потому лично видел и могу об этом говорить то что видел. Стоял пункт вакцинации. Многие сдавали тесты и вакцинировались. Но большинство хасидов игнорировали это. Они не желали одевать маски за что получали по чайнику от полицаев. Но это физическое воспитание к ним не доходило в голову и только отойдя 5 м они снимали маски. Украина обвиняет Израиль в вспышке ковида. Не без основательств. Но эту же заразу ортодоксы когда разъехались с нового года повезли в самолетах в другие страны не только в Израиль
А что Бацька в Белоруссии говорит по поводу ковида, я думаю вы знаете. Но у большинства народа есть авторитеты.
Простите, но я дальше не готов поддерживать эту нить беседы. Очень похоже на поток сознания.
Yeah I am out here too. Have a good evening 
That will be a pity, friend
Our ruling
Berenson said that in the United Kingdom, “70-plus percent of the people who die now from COVID are fully vaccinated.”
The figure he cited does not apply to the entire U.K., only England.
But a high percentage of COVID-19 deaths in England occurred among fully vaccinated people largely because high percentages of Englanders are vaccinated, especially older people who are more likely to die from illness.
Moreover, the report Berenson cited shows that the unvaccinated are still much more likely to die from COVID-19: The COVID-19 death rate — the number of deaths per 100,000 people — is much higher among unvaccinated people than vaccinated people.
We rate the claim False.
70 percent of people who die from Covid are they vaccinated or not ? if yes, than my claim is not false. no need to add " but …"
You read what you want to see and ignore the facts. Good luck and cheers, no more discussion with you.
so what? If the UK is 100% vaccinated, 100% of those who have died of Covid will be vaccinated.
Well this is a great question and hasn’t been answered here so far, so I’ll answer. But first, let’s find out a few additional facts.
- The higher the proportion of those vaccinated, the greater the percentage of those vaccinated who will die, this is definitely so, because, you must admit, if 100% is vaccinated, then 100% of the vaccinated will die.
In England, a large percentage of people are vaccinated, not 100%, but a lot. - In a vaccinated person, behavior towards COVID changes. Surely many here have noticed this on themselves. For example, I began to treat anti-mask covidiots a little differently. Previously, I perceived them as a direct threat, but began to perceive them as just idiots. Many people after the vaccine think they are immune to the virus and behave accordingly. And the vaccine doesn’t guarantee you won’t get sick. Therefore, the incidence schedule is high.
- The old people were vaccinated first. And their antibody titer has already dropped. This means that they need to be revaccinated. Preferably not by Astrazeneca. I do not follow how things are going there. Astrazeneca itself is a good vaccine, it is effective against the wild strain, but it saves worse from the Delta.
- Finally, let’s look at the mortality and morbidity charts. With morbidity, as a year ago, mortality is 5 times lower.
Summing up - if you do not select facts specifically for your theories, but consider them as a whole, then it is quite obvious that:
- Vaccinated people also get sick and die, but much less often;
- The vaccinated also need to behave carefully, it is early to remove all-all restrictions;
- The selection of facts leads to false conclusions, it is necessary to look at the picture as a whole.
You will probably ask me - why are you writing this, he’s an idiot, you can’t convince him. I disagree with you. We all live in one society, and these people, for the most part, simply do not have enough information about vaccines and are in some kind of distorted informational reality. After all, it seems that it is better to find a cure for the sick (and it has already been found, yes) than to vaccinate all healthy people. It seems that those people on social networks who talk about the horrors of vaccination are offering the right facts. Most of these people broadcast someone else’s thoughts when they give out such “facts” about “70% of vaccinated die.” And sometimes, if you patiently and for a long time explain to them, answer all of their questions like this, they gradually … no, they don’t change their minds, but start looking for information on this topic from sources that are alternative to those that they used before. If I have a chance to convince at least one anti-axer, I will do it.
By the way, about medicines. They are - these are monoclonal antibodies. They are highly effective… when taken as soon as symptoms appear. In this case, the course of treatment costs several thousand dollars / euro. And most importantly, with the massive use of such a d__g, 90% or so will be wasted (these people will not get seriously ill and will not die, according to statistics). This means that only people from the high-risk group, those who cannot be vaccinated, will receive these d__gs.
Извините, а о чем эта беседа/тема? =)
И да, глупо отрицать, что COVID - это золотой билет для всех проектов домашних развлечений. Второй год подряд платные сервисы, игровые компании и всякие нетфликсы бьют рекорды по доходам. Вы вероятно тоже.
Меня удивляет другое. Сейчас в мире (России/Украине тоже) - невероятно популярны домашние вечеринки, вписки и т.п. В России насколько я знаю, клубы активны, но уровень упал + надо искать варианты (QR-код, или вход нелегально через знакомых/деньги). Почему же вы не используете фактор того, что молодежь затащить под камеры на домашнюю вечеринку в разы легче сейчас, чем два года назад.
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Covid19 is a golden ticket for paid services. Onlyfans/Netflix/Games - have record profits. Vh - probably too.
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Homeparties are incredibly popular in the world. Young people still want to parties and not afraid to die young. It is strange that Vh does not use a situation where it is much easier to attract people in free camhouse than 2 years ago.
I’m gonna frame the last part of that statement😂
Привет, Андрей (вас, наверное, бесит такое вступление?)
Да, похоже, мы скатились в оффтопик здесь. Но и вы задаете вопрос не по теме. Отвечу вам так - МЫ сами (сервис VHTV) не устраиваем никаких вечеринок и вписок, потому что мы работаем в технологическом поле - мы предоставляем сервис как для вас, пользователей, так и для франчайзи, участников. И если вы считаете, что в том, что вы предложили, есть перспектива - записывайтесь во франчайзи - мы помогаем на старте оборудованием и советами. Заработаете с нами баснословные барыши, возможно, это ваш золотой билет.
Все нормально. Просто тут какой-то медицинский форум идет.
Насчет франчайзи - ну я не понимаю, а в чем смысл смотреть как люди ничего не делают/спят или играют на телефоне. И как это окупается. Еще и не понимая их языка. Вон в Казантип пришла Долли потусить на 1,5 дня - и тема сразу оживилась на почти 700 постов, а их дом все время в топ6 висел.
Не вижу тут никакой проблемы. Буду разъяснять антиваксерам необходимость вакцинации там, где только это возможно.
Что касается смыслов и активностей - еще раз - каждый мнит себя стратегом, видя бой со стороны. Присоединяйтесь, может у вам получится. Менеджеры-франчайзи очень хорошо зарабатывают. Особенно те, у кого получается.
Probably, I did not fully express myself. I’m going to stop talking about how the Hasidim are spreading the virus across the planet. The comrade clearly has some kind of claim directly to the Hasidim. I am opposed to discrimination based on religion (as well as on other grounds). For me, ministers and adherents of any religion are equally bad 
Why? Because they are constantly lying for their own ends. I am not ready to give up the topic of vaccination, as well as the topic of anti-axers, it’s interesting to me.
Я навел пример из жизни. Это разве плохо, живые примеры?
Потому что это не диалог. Я вам говорю про одно, вы мне про хасидов. Я про другое - вы снова про хасидов. Я не готов обсуждать хасидов. Вообще.