Off course it doesn`t matter if has nothing to do with the records of what actually happened.
There is only one side to the story and its been recorded and posted so many times.
So basically you are saying that what i have seen life, then again from my recording, and then posted here lots of times, it was not real/concrete facts (its only in my head) and i am just assuming and speculating about what i think i have seen ?
Just scroll up and you going to see that much concrete facts, if not i can post for you again and again and again all of the records from the start till she ended up crying.
Okay, so before I venture forth, donāt shoot me - but I know itās going to sound like backtracking (a little). What if appearances are deceiving and what we think we saw is something different from what actually happened? Unfortunately, we no longer have the bedroom footage of the gangbang, or anything that happened afterwards. But the footage from the kitchen, hallway, living room and bathroom during and after the gangbang is still there (for as long as the timeline is available). I looked through it and was surprised to find the following (1) after the gangbang, Naya went to the bathroom wrapped in a red blanket, and two of the guys came in and f___ed her to give them blowjobs. The Medea came in, and the other girl who was visiting. I take it from their manner that at first they believed Naya was a willing participant, but then decided to take her at her word that she had been r__ed, and Medea escorted her back to the bedroom and kicked the guys out. BUT (2) then when one of the guys (the one with the baseball cap) wanted to come in, apparently, from appearances, Naya wanted him to come in and Medea, Wayne, and the other guest girl and guy left, apparently because Naya wanted them to. This was at about 00:43 on the timeline for the hallway outside the bedroom. When Medea left, she was obviously pissed because Naya complained of bing r__ed and then wanted one of the guys to come back in the room with her. A few minutes later, one of the other guys, the tall older looking one, also went in. Those guys stayed in the room with Naya for about 20 minutes - then (3) at about the 00:53 mark on the timeline the door opens and out comes Naya walking very steadily straight down the hall and into the bathroom. In the bathroom, after she does her business, she stands up in front of the mirror, leans over the sink and SMILES very broadly at herself - this is at about the 00:55 mark. She stands there smiling, then giggles and turns with a smirk on her face to go out. (4) When she goes out, sheās met by the dude with the. baseball cap and they go into the kitchen, where she lights a cigarette and sits on the county chatting and laughing with everyone, including the dudes who gang banged her. (5) After a few minutes, Medea apparently asks everyone to leave and shuts the kitchen door to have a conversation with Naya. This is close to the 01:00 mark on the timeline. After about 5 minutes, everyone comes back in and thereās more joking and conversation - then Naya goes back to the room with the baseball cap dude. She apparently stayed there quite some time. I donāt know how long, because I stopped watching at that point. To sum it up, Iām thinking the real key to what happened is in that conversation between Naya and Medea - and wondering if, as some have already suggested, this was something she wanted to do, but then regretted later. She was actually laughing and smiling when she came out of that bedroom and went into the bathroom the second time! And walking straight as you please! The one problematic piece of evidence is the _____ing in the living room before they went to the bedroom, and when she was in the kitchen she was wobbly and threw up in the sink - but she walked straight with no problem when she went to the bathroom, and was laughing and joking with her ār____tsā in the kitchen. It bobbles my mind. And Iām drawing no conclusions this time, just throwing out what I was able to see before the timeline disappears. But without the footage from the bedroom, both during the gangbang and afterwards, when she went back in with the two dudes, I guess weāll never know what really happened.
What you have just seen was after the first attempt of gangbang, almost totally failed one( none of them could get hard) she never said she was rapped after that one, she only went to the toiled where that guest girl in black came and spoke with her and then the kitchen bit, the actual important part was to follow after that, not once, but actually twice till Golo stepped in and told the boys to stop and go out and consoled her when she was crying (also closing her mouth when she was saying she was r__ed)
Okay, thanks, I didnāt know that - I never was able to see the bedroom footage because the realm was pulled and when it came back on the footage was gone. That puts it in perspective and makes me feel a little better - not about her being r__ed, but because I was beginning to believe she wanted it like some of the others who have been commenting.
Just to add my unnecessary comment i will say now i did not see the original but having read all the comments and seen the clips , read very carefully Victorās good summary, and with my own eyes sen what i believe to be the three boys plotting against her i do think that they planned to have sex with her probably with the use of Roh___ol or another d__g.
It is too easy to say a simple d__g test because Roh___ol at least is very difficult to trace in the b___d stream.
What should happen. Bear in mind this is not the UK and i cannot speak for most other countries but we have seen alrweady a few instances that in Russia it is difficult to get the police to act on reported crimes. I have my doubts that even if Naya walked into a police station with all of the clips that i have seen that the police would act upon it. Maybe i am over cynical but the poor girl having possibly been r__ed will then have to spend hours trying to get police to believe her. Then all the witnesses will have seen little and will not be prepared to testify .
History tells us that VHTV will do what they can but it will prove impossible to get te police to act. Therefore VhTV should make sure that Medea bans all of those boys and has a moratorium on alcohiol for months as happened in an earlier apartment. Yes i would love to see those boys prosecuted,and to paraphrase (i think ) BigJock . ''Who amongst you has d______rs. āā I would like to think that some of the other boys take the three out and give them a good thumping, but i know that is unlikely to happen as well,
i think as a forum there is little we can do except avoid this apartmnent
I know I keep saying Iām not going to comment any further and then when I come back and read what has been said since I was here last, I have to respond.
To all those who say she was not d__gged as there is no proof and she was not r__ed as she consented to sex.
You would say exactly the same if the boys had done that to your d______r?
See, thatās what Iām saying - she went back in with those two guys, then came out walking straight and smiling about it - thatās what puzzles me and bothers me about it. But without the actual footage, itās hard to settle my mind about it, except to just take her word at it and assume the worst happened.
Sooner or later yāall going to have to let this go because itās only going to be u talking about it or is it your goal to get this apartment removed?? @John78