But I think in general each realm should be outfitted with at least a first aid kit… I am not sure if each place has one…
Fully agree with that.
Always a good idea but lets get real,what is there normally in a first aid kit, a few plasters, bandages, some antiseptic and normally a little pair of scissors, not much use in such a current situation.
Not for such a situation. But in general it is good to have it…
Most places don’t even have enough plates or cups or other usual stuff when we move to a place and you are expecting first aid kit??
In theory it’s good idea but guess unless it’s on vh rules on studios, it won’t happen as they just care to use vh realms as place for their cam workers for their external interests or open place after place and relocate after relocate
Where I live, everything is getting laced with fentanyl now. It’s now fairly common for the party d__gs to be laced with fentanyl to give them a little extra kick. A lot of deaths have happened because of this. I am not saying that Sergio passed because of a d__g overdose. But if he did, he may have taken something that that was laced with an opioid without him or his friends knowing.
If they use nose spray they can use Narcan. Believe it or not Fentanyl is showing up in the other street d__gs you mentioned. That is a world problem at this time. Not bad to at least try the Narcan along with CPR.
Yes a lot of deaths have been happening where I live because of this.
I have 2 suggestions for VHTV, also I take a step back from today’s event, which are tragic but let’s not jump to conclusions or determine causes about what we have little information about.
I am not a paying subscriber but I was seriously considering, however a few things gave me pause before i could give my money to such service. But I’ve been following the site closely in the last month. If those things were clearer I might feel more comfortable.
And this will be a long post, try to read everything first. And yes this is MY perception doesn’t mean I am correct.
1 - Clear and public rules about participants behavior (code of conduct or similar)
So participants AND viewers already know what is allowed or not. If you don’t agree don’t use this site.
Maybe I am missing it but I don’t see a set of rules for participants and their guests. I know there are rules, I just don’t know what they are.
What I’ve heard is that guests need to sign a paper/contract/waver proving they are not under age and allow their image used on VHTV. Besides that I don’t know what other rules there are.
Apparently managers are responsible for this, but does every apartment have a manager? Are managers also participants? What rules they follow or is up to each manager determine what is allowed or not.
For example cam sites have lots of rules. Chaturbate is pretty strict with d__gs and a_____l, MFC not so much. Both prohibit caming from public places and display of bodily fluids, Onlyfans also prohibits those 2 things.
These are just examples, not saying these rules must implemented here.
Back to VHTV.
Alleged D__gs use
Im not advocating for banning or regular testing, but there should be clear rules about it.
is it allowed or not???
Alleged domestic violence
I’ve said alleged and Im not mentioning any apartments.
And I know it has nothing to do with today’s event. But this is important.
I don’t need to go into details, but such a rule should be clear:
VHTV does NOT condemn or allow any kind of domestic Violence. In case of v_______n the penalty is the following:
- 1st instance: 1 week ban
- 2nd: Loose revenue for an entire month
- 3rd: you are out
OR
- 1st confirmed case you are out
These are just 2 points that I consider very important and should be clear for everyone: participant, guests, viewers, subscribers, managers and staff.
2 - VHTV is not merely a platform
This might be even more controversial, but VHTV charges (a lot) of money and needs to take responsibility.
On this forum apparently only @VHTV_James, @VHTV_Editorial and @VHTV_CEO are part of the company.
I understand that Moments operators are Forum Mods and control archives, but are not employees so don’t receive $$$
Mangers are not employees but do receive a % of the revenue.
We pay to VHTV, we do not subscribe or pay to each individual realm or apartment. Without VHTV no money exchange hands. So they are responsible with what happens afterwards.
To be more precise, maybe VHTV could make available physiological help to participants, d__g test maybe, first aid kit in every realm, emergency removal services (not necessarily full health insurance). I don’t know exactly what, but apparently today there is nothing.
Nowadays there are huge discussion around the world with internet services, is Uber a mere platform that connects users and drivers or are drivers employees who diverse benefits??? Is twitter/FB responsible for policing fake news???
VHTV is not nearly as large or rich as those companies but problems are happening and something must be done, they must take responsibility.
MFC banned camming from public place when it started to become a problem.
3 - IF VHTV really doesn’t want to take responsibility
Lets say VHTV doesn’t agree at all with my point #2 because they are merely a platform etc and etc… We need Clear rules from #1 and remove realms that don’t follow those rules.
Otherwise you are profiting from something and not doing anything with the consequences.
TLDR:
Make public rules so everyone knows what is allowed or not, take responsibility for what happens or remove the realms that don’t follow the rules.
Some suggestions to make a healthier environment for everyone and just a starting point.
You’re right about that, but let’s be honest, the average person will never be prepared for such a situation. In my opinion the most important thing to have at all times are a telephone and the numbers of the emergency services, and of course, the awareness of when to call them. A basic knowledge of first aid and CPR would be handy as well, might be a thing to require at least from the managers.
I summarized all the ideas in the first post…
the care kit/first aid training for the house manager should indeed be the basis… for solutions it is also necessary to see the means (financial/moral) that VH is willing/able to put in, even if they can’t control them all. there is always an accident factor, but there are also very visible behaviours (not only for d__gs) that can be a warning.
A better analysis of the behaviour could help
In my opinion, there maybe should be some sort of button that alerts someone(s) with authority that there is a situation that needs immediate attention. It could have a comment section for reason attention needed such as fire in guest bedroom, medical emergency, burglars, smoke from light switch, etc. Maybe make it so the button only appears on TL2 or above to cut down on a___e? As viewers, is there more that we can do than sound the alarm? I can’t think of anything. As far as consequences, sadly, impacting their money would seem like the most effective measure. To the best of my knowledge, fines are already in place. Just thinking out loud. My idea may suck, but it may give someone else an idea that works. RIP Sergio
The more ideas and options that are posted the better. At some point a basic rule of thumb can be made from them.
I summarize them in first post so will be easier to see.
Yes I saw that. Just saying people agree with your post and want to contribute. Not a bad thing when a community comes together.
from what i heard from other realms, it was somwething with his heart, possibly heart attack.
also as much i have listened Sergio it have not occure that he is taking d__gs, i can name handfull of realm that you can hear mentions of d__gs in any party, but i heard only once something about weed in Sergio realm. in a matter of fact i believe he was very against any use of d__gs. i highly doubt that what happen with him had anything to do with d__gs.
I don’t want to appear confrontational given the circumstances, but what you are describing is a totally different realm to the one I have been watching the last couple of months.
I sat here until 6am one night whilst what looked like prescription pills were passed around and being taken recreationally, Sergio laid in bed, shaking uncontrollably - unable to control his legs and arms as he thrashed about. He proceeded to sit for around 40 minutes elaborately talking to his wall/headboard whilst there was nobody else in the room, it was not normal behaviour. In the meantime Finn had also lost control of his movements and was so highly charged it was scary. This was all discussed in Sergio and Theresa’s topic at the time. In addition to the OPEN d__g use I personally witnessed the others go through at least 4 bottles of vodka over a few hours. This was just one occasion of many I witnessed over a few weeks and discussed in their topic with others.
I’m not saying that any of this contributed to Sergio’s early death, but there suddenly seems to be a narrative being pushed on the forums over the last couple of hours that the realm was pretty much d__g free and that is completely false, it was there, it was open and it was extreme. Concealing the fact will not do anyone any favours, I have zero issues with consenting adults using a_____l and d__gs recreationally and I feel the best way to prevent this kind of thing happening again is open discourse and this is something that is thankfully being facilitated for us by @jabbath1987 - through this small changes can look to be made to add to the safety of the participants without too much interference, sweeping it under the carpet and saying there is zero issue with d__g and a_____l a___e when everyone else can clearly see otherwise is an attempt of gaslighting that needs calling out for the participants sake.
Again, to make perfectly clear, I am not in any way suggesting that d__g use had any part in Sergio’s untimely passing but please, lets not try and whitewash the fact that substance and a_____l a___e was extensive on the realm.
by no means i’m trying to whitewash or something. this realm did had huge a_____l problems.
also the only time i heard something about pills was about erection pills, and even those was for the guest that had some issues. the last months or so i’m not spending lot of time in vhtv,so i cant say for sure what happens and if Sergio had change, but while with Melisa again i can tell that i never heard anything to imply that they were taking any d__gs.
The thing is heart attacks can happen to young people naturally of course. However, in young people heart attacks are often associated with some type of overdose.
I only mention this because people seem to think that heart attacks only occur naturally. Regardless of what caused his death it is still very said.