were these women a real danger for the Hamas
if you want footage of the Hamas k__ling baby’s, just ask… i have it
were these women a real danger for the Hamas
I totally agree that Hamas must be destroyed, don’t get me wrong
But i can not agree with the mass m____ring that Israel is doing now as a response
and how do you think that they should act? go in without weapons and ask friendly if the Hamas will blow up themselves?
I am not a military strategist to have an answer for that question. But definitely mass bombing the most dense populated area in the world (where 40% are c___dren) is a big NO NO
what other options do they have?
You know the hamas are running through tunnels, so they are everywhere
of course in agree completely that c___dren AND WOMEN should never be the victims
They rejected the plan because the plan gave more land to the jews (55%) when jews were a minority and the Palestinians have bene the majority for centuries. They also rejected it because half of the jewish state would be arab so how would that work out? Yet wiki doesn’t mention this i wonder why…
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Did you watch his suggested Netflix documentaries? Maybe the answer is there?
** this is sarcasm **
That’s exactly what makes it even worse. They are not k__ling almost any Hamas members as, as you said, they are hiding in tunnels, but instead mostly civilians. How to support somenthing like this ?
Have you watched any videos with what hey done in Gaza last days ? It is the worst i have even seen in my 45 years
that 55% would not been enough, because they knwe that millions of Jews would come there
just ask… i have plenty…
Netflix docs are biased 
. Whose main goal is to get views and make money over facts. They often stretch the truth to put it mildly…
you can get evrything back just free the hostages .
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These are but wild and whirling words my lord! I don’t really believe you believe it is OK to punish a whole people (including the 40 to 45% of population who are c___dren and not old enough to vote). Too reminiscent of what the Nazis got up to at Warsaw is it not?
The IDF will have a tough job indeed and I wish them well. Urban warfare is the toughest and the most costly (Bakhmut, Stalingrad). Problem is I don’t think the IDF are professional enough for the job (hope I am wrong). The last thing Israel needs is to be accused of genocide afterwards but inevitably there will be civilian casualties especially if Hamas uses them as shields.
The main thing is not to lose sight of what is happening here. Ruthless foreign powers are using the running sore that is Gaza to further international schemes to wreck the relationship between Saudi and Israel. They must not succeed.
POSTSCRIPT What matters most is that this contrived issue does not turn into a world war. Good to see Uncle Sam’s aircraft carrier anchored off the coast. They are the world’s policeman now, whether they like it or not!
How long has the conflict between Israel and Palestine lasted?
So the first violent clashes took place more than 100 years ago, this escalated further in the 1930s. When Adolf Hitler came to power in Germany, more and more Jewish settlers moved into Palestine. In 1936, this led to an eruption. Palestinians rebelled against British rule and Jewish colonisation. They attacked Jewish and British targets such as railway lines, trains and Jewish settlements. After three years, the British managed to quell the revolt, but discontent remained.
Unable to appease the unrest, the British wanted to transfer authority over Palestine to the United Nations. In 1947, there seemed to be a solution: the territory would be divided. Places where mainly Jews lived would become Jewish territory. And areas where Palestinians were the majority would become Palestinian.
Disagreement over partition between Israel and Palestine
At that time, Palestine was home to more Palestinians than Jews. Yet, in view of future settlers, the Jews were allocated a larger territory than the Palestinians. The Jews accepted this partition plan, the Palestinians did not. Why not, there are different ideas about that. ‘They thought it was an unfair division of territory,’ Aarts believes. According to the Centre for Information and Documentation on Israel (CIDI), the Palestinians did not like the whole idea of a Jewish state and wanted to keep the whole territory for themselves.
Escalation after declaring the state of Israel
When the British officially withdrew on 15 May 1948, Israel declared itself an independent state. That’s where things really went wrong. Aarts: ‘The surrounding Arab countries did not let this go over their heads.’ The next day, Arab troops invaded the self-proclaimed state; they wanted to liberate Palestine. The battle went disastrously for the Arabs.
Israel gained control of a larger area than had been allocated to them in the UN partition plan. Over 700,000 Palestinians fled the war zone to surrounding countries, to the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Aarts: ‘The Israelis call this war the war of independence. The Palestinians call the same war Nakba, which means ‘disaster’.’
In 1949, the fighting ceased. But no peace was made. The unrest remained. Arab countries did not recognise the state of Israel. A few times weapons were resumed, but all that did little to change the situation. Until 5 June 1967, when Israel fought Egypt, Jordan and Syria for six days. That Six-Day War, according to Aarts, again went disastrously for the Arabs.
Jewish settlements in occupied territories
On 10 June 1967, Israel expanded its territory even further. The Israeli army occupied the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, where mostly Palestinians lived, and the Golan Heights in Syria. Later, wars broke out again, such as the October War in 1973. ‘But none of these did much to change the occupation situation,’ says Aarts.
To the anger of Palestinians, Israel started building Jewish settlements in the occupied territories from the late 1960s. Especially in the West Bank, many Israeli villages and towns sprang up. They are often home to very religious settlers who believe Israel has a right to the West Bank because it says so in the Bible. In response to the occupation and settlement construction, riots and fighting regularly broke out. Palestinians also committed attacks on Israeli targets and civilians.
Negotiations for a solution continually foundered. Palestinian nationalism, which emerged under British rule, was further fuelled after the 1948 war. The Palestinians also wanted their own state. Therefore, several Palestinian military and political groups united in 1964 to form the umbrella Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO).
The Oslo Accords
The PLO’s original goal was to liberate all of Palestine. However, Israel saw them as a “terrorist organisation” and therefore would not engage in talks, at the same time the PLO refused to recognise Israel. This changed slightly in 1993: in the Oslo Accords, the two sides recognised each other for the first time. Israel would withdraw from (parts of) the Palestinian territories. The Palestinians would renounce violence and terror.
Further negotiations on sensitive issues would follow later, including where the borders should be, and what to do with the capital Jerusalem and Israeli settlements. Over time, it became clear that nothing came of the historic peace agreement. There was no serious Palestinian self-government and the number of Jewish settlements continued to grow. The outbreaks of violence did not stop either.
Peace between Israel and Palestine far away
Little came of subsequent peace proposals either. Only when both sides agree will peace perhaps be made. But there is still a long way to go. This is also because both Palestinians and Israelis do not always agree internally either. Aarts: ‘Most Palestinians, for example, are content with a Palestinian state in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Only a small minority of Palestinians still want the whole area for themselves.’
Another possible solution is for the whole area to become one state for both Jews and Palestinians, with equal rights. That would lead to the end of the Jewish character of the state of Israel. This is unacceptable to many Jews, as their issue is precisely having their own state.
According to a growing number of stakeholders and especially outsiders, the establishment of more and more Jewish settlers in the West Bank has already created that one state. According to them, a two-state solution is a thing of the past. Whether that is a positive or negative development depends on whom you ask.
Recent developments in October 2023 show that peace is further away than ever.
The conflict between Israel and the Palestinians in brief
It is complicated stuff, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But very briefly, the issue arose like this: a Jewish-Austrian activist saw a Jewish state of its own as a solution to the difficult position of Jews in Europe. That state was to rise in Palestine. The idea caught on. After World War I, the British gained authority over Palestine. Under the wings of the British, more and more Jews settled in Palestine. This led to resistance among Palestinians, and eventually an uprising.
In 1947, the United Nations came up with a plan for the partition of Palestine. The Jews accepted this plan, the Palestinians did not. Surrounding Arab countries invaded Palestine, but after this battle, Israel gained control of a larger area than they were allocated in the UN partition plan. The Palestinians rebelled against this and several wars followed. The conflict between Israel and the Palestinians flared up in full f___e in October 2023.
from Quest
That’s not a Netflix documentary. Do a simple search about it and you will see what it is.
do you even know that more then 50% of the 55% is a desert that was unpopulated.
Are you forgetting that the Palestinians were already there and were the vast majority so how would that be fair and how could they give more land to a minority without displacing even more of the arab population which the partition plan did anyway?
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I will say it again I am against k__ling or harming any civillians.
yes i know… they sold a lot of land to the Jews… that was the start of Israel as you can read above
Let me rephrase that then for you. Documentaries on Netflix are biased .