After nearly 9 years - Quo vadis?

I was thinking a while, if I should comment this topic, and finally decided, to add a few of my “points of view” knowing, that it won’t get the agreement of all.

I don’t remember who wrote what to which single aspect, and don’t want to scroll back and forth, so I say as said before.

As far as the initial post goes, I disagree with excluding “low performers” first as in general I am for equal rights, second for reasons mentioned earlier, exclusion of minorities, thinking of Gabriel aso.

I support the idea, to list the realms according to popularity, but not in a vote, just factual numbers of views, with the possibility left to the viewer to put favorit realms to the top.

This way realms see their standing, and can decide if they want to do something to get higher on the list.

From what I understand, the realms get money according to the number of viewers, so it’s in their hands to do whatever they deem necessary to raise the numbers.

Maybe the promotion should point out, that there are “wild ones” with parties all the times, and quiet ones, that display and share their regular lives with the viewrs.

This way there may be less disappointment to new users, if they run into Butterfly aso.

There were always realms like that (Candy for instance).

And it was always said to viewers that complained, go to another place, if you don’t like this one.

As far as equipment and setting cams goes, I agree, that newbies should have the possibility to consult an Advisor from VHTV to help them find the right angles aso for technically modern equipment.

Same old same old, as far as the apartment goes, comes in my opinion from the fact, that some are probably in the same building, where apartments are cut in the same scheme, and thus look alike.

As far as people doing the same, to me is a result of having to cover 24/7 and make it interesting, is probably not as easy as one might think.

And in real life, some things turn into routine, be it sex or hobbies, or how to keep your apartment in shape.

Lately it seems to me, that apartments are selected smaller that they used to be. Maybe because of cost, on the other hand easier to get the cams closer to whatever happens (Eros & Medusa).

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IMO not possible, and if made a rule, not to control. JMO

Also,how is normal that a very small percentage of the paing people to the main site, to control or impose what participants do/what guests to bring, etc ? Not even mentioning that a very big percentage of the comments made here, are from people who never had a sub. How to get feedback from people who are only present here to watch sex for free ?

need i say more,
maybe you should read my comment again especially the JMO part . if you think your comment makes me embarrased by what i said , might i suggest you find a weaker willed person ,to try to belittle , my sarcasm seems to of made an impact on you , and that just goes to prove im good at what i do ,

Not sure why we’re debating the forum. People enjoy talking to each other, friends have been made, and posting pics/ vids often points out things others may have missed.

There has always been some kind of forum, so that isn’t the problem - the content is.

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Ich will nicht Zuviel dazusagen jeder hat seine eigene Meinung . Was mich persönlich in letzter Zeit nervt . Es geht um die Clique von ich sag mal Radu & Yuneska(die meisten werden wissen wen ich meine ) zu viele Umzüge , Teilnehmer werden hin und her geschoben usw. Diese Leute sind bestimmt alle toll und nett für mich aber keine Konstanz zu viel durcheinander darum ein No Go

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There is no other way, the participants should get the feedback from the numbers they make (views) and not from the free to everyone forum. Remember, only a very small percentage of the paying members do post on the forum.
As i see them every single day reading the forum, it is obvious that they get the feedback from the worst possible place and forum members.
Totally wrong in my opinion.

Yes, what you’re saying is - you wouldn’t judge a tv show’s success by the amount of illegal streamers.

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How at the end of the day we are paying subscribers to watch them if they are so down in the rating how do they expect to know what people actually want. I fully disagree with you views about the forum and participants.

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I don’t think it’s rocket surgery….. Surely people just want some action, excitement, sex!

That’s the whole point, they don’t need to know that. They need to be original and creative and make the people to watch them. Naturally.

Everything else is pure camming.

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I may have expressed wrong.

My personal question, in case one would want to keep the participants out of the forum, so they don’t know what is spoken, is how would you want to do that.

As much as viewers without subscription find the sites, that, with or without permission from VHTV, show clips from the forum, that much will the participants know about any existing “forum site”.

And as much as some users of this forum have more than one account, as easy would it be for the participants to create an alias account to still read it.

I think you may have the idea to exclude the participants and their guests from a forum, but it’s an illusion to achieve that.

JMO

I forgot the possibility to cave the participants in, and cut their connection to any type of net-communication. :thinking:

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Even if it was possible….It only takes one participant or friend of participant, to pay for a subscription and then feed everyone else that they want to.

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This whole project is entertainment with sexual content.

I am sure, even if you go back to the old times, everybody who knows of the cams ( free visble ) tries to dosplay what he/she wants the audience to see, and please them at it’s best.

Admitted by the participants or not.

i was a subscriber for more than 6 years. the last few months i dont have a sub anymore, i keep an eye but simply vhtv has changed drastically and right now in my eyes it doesnt worth to be a sub.

fo what ever worth (propably not much) a view from a premium sub to not sub anymore here is the reasons.

simply right now vhtv is a huge clichbait its not anymore poeple living under the cam and having spicy moments. right now is a huge musical chairs.one can read the script from milles away, know what will happen and how will happen.

the authenticity has been thrown out of the window. Naturalism seems something from old times.

i also agree with many users that the forum has destroyed the authenticity. i believe 80% of tenants have an active account in the forum and seeing the wishes of viewers creating the mess of chickbait. and the viewer is chasing the carrot so eventually becomes a visious circle.

also the forum gave a eassy access to viewers have a contact with tenants and than some members become very bias and start promoting the musical chairs.

i dare anyone to name the last time something authentic spontaneus unexpected happen?

and all this because of the influence of forum,now its a a whole gigantic webcam entertainment of milking as much as possible the cow.

i miss the times where normal “everyday” couples was living and having once a week guest and you was thrilled what will happen.

well no matter how much me you or anyone will discuss things, nothing will change, everything goes up than goes down and hopefully can go up again :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

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You’re saying pretty much the same as I said earlier, except you actually cancelled your subscription. You’re absolutely right - nothing authentic, spontaneous, or unexpected ever happens.

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No, it’s not an illusion. There is a very simple solution: no forum at all. Problem solved.

Very wrong, this is what some of the studios/managers are telling the participants to do. I won’t name them again, we all know the places where a pure circus is happening

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Aa far as i can remember, from the places that i watch, Audrey fucking with Dino was the most authentic, spontaneous and totally unexpected thing in a very long time.

In rest, i totally agree with you, most of the apartments are a massive click.bait circus.

As you correctly said, it is a vicious circle which can be solved but i don’t think there is a willing to do so. At the end of the day, this is a business for both Vhtv and managers/studios. As for the viewers, 2$/day is too little to complain about the quality. In fact, we all know that on any webcamming site, 2$ will not bring more than a smile and 50$ will be enough to watch 1 or maybe 2 30 min ticket shows ( basically 2 fucks). No brainer that people want Vhtv to be a camming site and nothing to do with “real people living their life as they want”.

And the prohibition to all viewers to write about it anywhere.

Bulls…

Wherever some people exchange about the project, any of the participants will find it and know about the content.

And, what would you do if the forum was gone? watch the girls in the realms knit socks, ( it is not about sex. Remember )