You fail to see the severity of domestic violence and trying to justify it on VHTV. This has been going on for far too long and the policy of no violence being tolerated is a total joke. VHTV are a pretty big company and should have the expertise to deal with it.
However there were cases when tenants got kicked out at first time. I remember Gloria & Romeo. Til today still the worst case of violence I saw happen on camsā¦
And the what of the victim? Whom cares cause you can no !onger see them, right. Is it ever possible that the best hope for the victim is leaving the cams turned on?
I think depeneding on how bad the violence was giving people a second chance is justified. For example Alex was violent against Anna when joined the project. He managed to see his fault and changed completely.
Thatās what Iām saying, we have to trust the managers and vhtv to decide the best outcome based on all the facts that only they know. This idea of arm chair boycotts and punishments is short-sighted.
I am on a crusade as you call it because I think domestic violence is abhorrent and has no place in society. Time to stamp it out and stop making excuses for it. Do I have the answers of how VHTV should deal with it, NO but I do have my views. In my opinion they are doing nothing but sweeping it under the carpet and hope we forget about it.
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I see what you mean, I understand.
Therefore, from our point of view, as subscribers, we can do two things, warn and boycott. Nothing else is no longer in our power.
Managers, however, are the ones who create futther rules on how and ehat in such cases.
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That is a point I unfortunately have to say can be true. I know a recent case where exactly that happened. A tenant used the opportunity of a place being offline to beat up the partner. I canāt say the name however to protect the victimā¦
I am not. Iām simply asking for a better strategy then this idea of simple expulsion. Vhtv doesnāt have crystal ball and the do have to do consider how their punishments impact the victim.
What qualifies a manager to deal with such a serious issue? Most are just ex tenants with no training. I am pretty sure NASA are not going to hire you as a rocket scientist because as a kid you had posters of spaceships on your bedroom wallā¦
Acts of violence are never decided by managers. The decision what is done is always made by HR and ultimately by @MilkaFox
And exactly what training or qualifications do they have?
Seems to me the best strategy is to leave it up to the manager and vhtv to figure out whatās best. Demanding immediate expulsion is possibly narrow minded if you donāt have all the facts.
So seeing someone being beaten is not a fact. I agree it is up to VHTV but the issue is not being dealt with as it keeps happening. 2 cases in the last 24 hours and both back online after a short offline period, OH and the scenes deleted.
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Indeed, the cams can be a shelter for the victim even if ths threat remains. I think the 3 strikes rule is probably the best option, with immediate expulsion for any severe acts with the promise that the authorities will be notified and all evidence provided.
I do not know. What kind of training should they have you think?
I think with understanding the language and looking at the situation it is easy to determine what to do:
- Severe violence - Kick out
- Mild violence - Warning and fine
- Second time - Warning and high fine
- Third time - Kick out
By the way Oliver (realm21) was kicked out for depicting severe violence (R__e, m____r)
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As far as I can see, this manifesto does not refer to a specific case, but to the whole topic of violence. This is why I wonāt touch on any specifics here, but will talk about how we treat violence in general, how we work to make sure it doesnāt happen, and I would also like to hear some specific suggestions from the people who are speaking out here.
So first, we make it imperative that all participants be made aware that violence is unacceptable. Due to some national peculiarities many of our participants do not understand where violence begins and for that reason we also make these points clear to them.
Secondly, because people go to this project to make money, we make cases of violence very expensive for all participants (for models, for managers, we make sure that managers cannot shift the burden of punishment to models).
Yes, in particularly serious cases we can close the venue immediately. But mostly it happens when the violent participant doesnāt even realize what he did wrong, and we can see that he will continue to do it - this has happened once or twice.
As for @marcie59ās requirement to better vet participants before hiring - Iād still really like to see some specific algorithm for doing this. How do you see yourself doing this? If two people live together and they have an occasional run-in, itās already the norm for them - if you ask these people if thereās domestic violence among them - theyāll never say yes.
Perhaps you would suggest calling a psychiatrist for an interview? Iām afraid that would make our story fundamentally impossible.
Our method involves some kind of compromise, yes, primary selection is necessary, and it is there. But all human beings are not angels, and something sometimes happens in any couples or broader groups of people. We only see an opportunity here to gradually eradicate such practices from our participants. And, yes, I assure you, if you just immediately k__l the realm in which the violence occurred, these people, both the r____t and the victim, will continue their coexistence, and will continue to practice violence, in M____r Russia no one will certainly help them get rid of it. And if we leave them alone and work with them, there is a good chance that this will not happen again.
So, if anyone disagrees with all of this in whole or in part, I would like to hear specific objections.
There e over 40 apts with hundreds of people and guests all in various states of mind. Sorry, but the control you demand is far from real life.
You are joking, right?? 
What is your suggestion to do? I think each case we look at is different. Talking about what happend in realm91 as the pure act of severe violence did not happen on cam they most likely had no evidence to kick them out immidiately. I do not know if it is possible to declare the guests as kind of āpersona non grataā and say when they do not leave the realm will be turned offline? Because violence was done by guest here not by tenant. Why punish Macy and kick her out for the guy being a prick?
Talking about realm62 this for me the kind of violence to give āfirst strikeā