yes i wish someone could tell us
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The way I saw it, was that Indira was telling Kostja something about or in reference to Henry,
and they made sure, M&H wouldnāt hear it.
When Mikl came out, they were lowering voices and peeking inside if M&H were right there.
Then Kostja sorta explained to Mikl what the situation was, and that was what made her cry, like hearing
something uncomfortable again.
Mikl tried to take her face to console her, but she waved it, and instead proceeded to speak to Kostja when Mikl was gone.
In the beginning of the loggia-conversation Mira told something to I&K.
Of course I donāt know what she said, and thus donāt know if thereās a relation to Indira crying.
This whole thing with these parties and Henry taking what he wants, probably with consent, later
gets Indira, and she seems to be ambiguous about what they are doing.
She thinks sheās helping them make money, but, it doesnāt make her look really good, especially with kostja not attempting to get some with someone else
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It will all end in tears just to satisfy Henryās lust.
I wish she would realize, she doesnāt need to satisfy Henry, he doesnāt deserve it
You are exactly right. With Kostja participating in grabbing one of the other women, it would look like swingers having fun. No one questions Marica and Mikl, Koen and Wendy.
We all know that they are there for the money. But there is at least a pretense that it is just as much about having fun, which it often is.
With Kostja, one gets a feeling that he is there in those groups mostly to deliver Indiraās ass to anyone that wants it while reassuring her that he is there to provide moral support and his blessings. Then it just looks like Indira is selling her ass to whoever wants to use it. That it what makes it so hard for me to watch. I look at it but I do not take much pleasure in it. I feel for Indira. May be I should feel for Kostja too. But he come across to much as a Š“ŃŃŠ°ŃŠ¾Šŗ - best translated as āa goofy boyā -
I have heard Kostja in private talking with Indira and I know that he is a sharp kid. But during every one of these swinging events he come out looking like a Š“ŃŃŠ°ŃŠ¾Šŗ
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That translates as āfoolā, which is probably about the same as how you described him.
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To me they shouldnāt come over unless he is willing to fuck others. It looks like heās giving Indira TO Henry so they make money off her pussy. These sex parties where Kostja is friends with the females in attendance has to go somewhere. Next time theyāre invited to a sex party, kostja should discuss in advance with whoever he and indira are comfortable with, and make sure it happens, so he doesnāt look like a pimp
well tonight, Henry didnāt take Indira until Kostja couldnāt go on,
and therefor, if Kostja had had someone else as an exchange, for the moment he couldnāt have done
anything with her.
Had he finished Indira and himself he would have been better off, but remember, Indira had swallowed
Kostja before in the first BJ, so he had given his milk, and probably needs more time to recover.
He did it longer the second time, when he was paying more attention to her, and less to his surroundings
Kostja could have done what Mikl did. Mikl played around with Marica but all his energy he put it into Mira. Kostja could have played a little with Indira, then moved on to Mira or Marica - and I donāt buy that she is like his sister - and let one of the guys play with Indira.
I think, Indira and Kostja had talks and discussions about his behaviour in the early days.
Whenever Indira started some conversation or even a kiss, or touching or the gangbang, he went to the GBR at TJIK for example to poute, because he didnāt want to share her.
People were giving him s__t for that, because sexual activity is the sense of VHTV.
Unless they have a settled realm, where they both fuck each other, and let the guests do the swaps, and there are other couples within VHTV who do just that, they have to sing the managers song.
It was mentioned a zillion times, that one has to divert job-sex and lovemaking to keep a personal relation
in this environment.
Now Kostja in my eyes has changed into the opposite extreme. He is offering anyone to touch-fuck-eat or
whatnot Indira to point out, " hey, see, I can handle itā¦"
That makes it look like a pimp lending out his puppet to whoever wants to pay for it.
It has a bad taste to me, and I hope, Kostja is honest to Indira.
Poor Kostja got cucked againā¦ 
But we saw some of that Kostja attitude of offering Indira back even at the Troy apartment orgy where he offered Indira to Mikl and he went off to smoke endless cigarettes in the loggia. Even at the M&M orgy on the brown couch where Indira threw herself on the pile and her ass was available to anyone who wanted it, Kostja became the gatekeeper. Eventually Indira and Mikl were drifting toward each other. Kostja could have stopped it and kept fucking Indira, instead he moved off and abandoned her to Mikl and some extent Tejo. Quite a disturbing scene. I canāt imagine Wendy doing such a thing and Koen playing along with her
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TMO,
it looked in the second round, that Kostja was constantly looking around as if he was scared that he will collapse, and someone else woul proceed with Indiraā¦again.
I think deep in his heart he would rather have her for himself at home in a ānormalā life-situation like
a married couple.
What he does is the desperate attempt to get several interests put together.
I donāt know if they are desperately dependent on the money they make there, or if it is Indira who wants to
live the swinger-life, and I guess Iāll never find out.
I am under the impression, that they are not doing VHTV for fun or conviction of the life-style.
I think, it is their anchor to finance their life and living, and that they are of course doing it on their
own decision, but only because there are few other options.
It was nice to see, that Indira after being redressed on the couch put herself into Kostjaās arm,
like to show " job done, look where I belong to."
That tells me, with all tears and temporary disharmony, they live in consent amongst them, like a team,
and I hope they can save that for their own well being.
Partially agree,
but at S&T event, Mikl asked if he could fuck Indira, and Kostja agreed.
At the M&M event Iām not 100 % sure, but I think Tejo asked, sitting on the couch, if he could have a try with Indira, and offered Jirina as exchange.
With Mikl at the 24th, Indira was seeking confirmation to handle Mikl, but at first kept constant physical
contact, which was interrupted by Jirina, who started riding Kostja while Mikl fucked Indira and Henry took videos.
Sure, things could have been handled different, but thatās
coulda shoulda woulda.
Kostja should become an adult, and take care of Indira instead of offering her to the world.
I donāt want to see an oldie party where Lenny, Bruno and Company show up, with Kostjaās current attitude, Indira would be easy meat, and probably not even interfere.
You are right. Mikl asked, Tejo asked, etc
I never see any such asking in other parties.
Have you ever seen anyone asking Koen f it is ok for them to fuck Wendy and Koen would nod a yes with his head ?
Have we seen someone going after Miraās ass and Henry nodding his consent ?
I have seen that only with Kostja
So yes, with the present attitude, Indira would become every dudeās fuck doll.
Shana fucks whom she wants and whenever she wants but we do not get the same sense of exploitation because Shana will blow your brains out without you ever believing that she it totally in love with you. She knows how to handle herself in this environment
The fact she willingly jumped on his cock during the M&M orgy on January 24th, when he asked, tells me sheās not against it, and kostja needs to take the cue from mikl yesterday and just start touching her or mira , because thatās how it worked last night