They could also become like the Ariela and Sebastian apartment. A ‘normal’ apartment where they live, have outside lives. He works. She does some softcore porn. They have visitors with whom they have occasionally foursomes. Ariela periodically has this young guy with whom she spends the night.
It is not a H & M circus. Ariela does not come across as a business lady and Sebastian does not come across as her souteneur
This I had not heard in that clearness so far.
But if she does soft-porn, she is a business lady, just probably not displaying it.
If you follow their apartment, you observe a day to day life which is just the life of a couple. Never orgies… Two to three times in a year a foursome. Added to that the young kid, always the same, who spends time with Ariela.
I used to follow on RLC one apartment where there was this couple. Occasionally they would have fantastic foursomes wit friends. May be once or twice in a year. Occasionally threesomes. At some point the guy moved out and she was left alone. For at least six months she had no one. Then slowly she started dating. At times she had several guys in a row in one week at other times for weeks there would be no one. She also had a life outside the apartment. When she had parties, these were far more sophisticated than the Jirina stuff. Often someone would play some instrument. sing, etc. It almost never degenerated into the stuff we see in the H & M word.
There is no reason why K & I could not have an apartment, give us something to watch while not making it look like a brothel
I mentioned this conversation several times to the forum group. Recall, I used to translate - my login was Mitchel
The other example is the Otto and Lola apartment. They have been around for a long time - in and out of VHTV. Now they are back. They almost never fuck anyone outside of the couple.
The way H & M have managed their apartments is almost an exception on VHTV. In most of the apartments there are no fuck-dolls where a Henry or one of his buddies feel entitled to finger all the girls.
Welcome back, I’m glad you write something every now and then
That is what I mentioned more than once, let them have their place, let them fuck eachother, and if that attracts enough viewers, fine.
Then I don’t see the pressure of whoever has the power to f___e them to fuck other people.
Maybe that made Troy _____ excessively, to let their foursome attempt fail.
Would have been interesting to see, if Kostja would have gotten along with Savannah, because he
had started her the day he moved in at S&T&I in the bathtub, and knew about the Indira/Troy history at M&H and S&T.
I was totally surprised that a foursome with Savannah and Troy did not take place.
I bet Kostja would have had a terrific time with Savannah. They clearly liked each other.
On a parallel subject, last night Wendy and Koen were with H &M.
Not sure of why things happened the way they did, but while Henry got a blow job from Wendy, it did not turn into a real foursome with Mira. Instead Koen fuck the s__t out of Wendy while Henry was eating out Mira. My be is that Koen realized that Mira was in no mood to fuck him so he just focused on Wendy.
This is something that Kostja is totally incapable of doing. instead he just sits there at the other end of the couch from Mira and if someone want to offer him a blow job he will take it, while Henry took ownership of Indira for the next 3 hours
The way Indira behaved at 02 feb at S&T was different from the other gangbangs.
She sucked Kostja, until he gave her up.
She had kissed up with Mikl before, but when she moved to fuck Mikl, she kept the link to Kostja,
animated him to get up and let her suck his dick, while she already had mounted Mikl’s dick, and kept
blowing him as long as he wanted, i.e. Mikl finally pulled her over.
And after a while Kostja came back, just couldn’t finish Indira not even with a vibrator.
Mikl had to take that part, and Indira was obviously delighted.
You may remeber, that I said often, that sex-wise (not love) probably Mikl would have been Indira’s first choice rather than Kostja.
After Mikl came, Indira went straight back to Kostja, and that gave him self-confidance.
Discussable if the high-five were necessary. That looked disrespectful vs Indira to me.
Yes, Kostja gave up Indira at that moment. He never should have done that. That is why I keep saying that he needs remedial lessons. Time and again is is there to turn on the Indira ignition then hands over the wheel to the other driver. Same thing happened October 1st
This is why I consider Kostja probably more at fault for the way things went than Henry or Mira’s red days
I don’t know if it’s nerves, but he never went soft in 5 minutes, when kostja was fucking her alone on the couch at TJIK. There’s something about fucking in front of people that causes his problems. But he did a lot better at that orgy at M&M, on January 24th, when indira was able to ride him for quite a bit
The two on two foursome at TJIK worked perfectly fine at TJIK for Kostja.
Whilst the foursome @ TJIK on march 30th looked “unorganized”.
It felt as if Kostja was trading Indira to Tejo.
First while being blown by Indira spoke to Jirina, pointing at Tejo.
Then Jirina passed the message, and since Indira’s butt stood high in the air, Tejo went and fucked
her for a little while.
I thought, Tejo was surprised by the opportunity, and Kostja did it to avoid going limp and leave the stage to a triple.
That the girls later both used their dildos for ages speaks about the quality of that fuck.
After Tejo stopped, Indira went on to Kostja, and although Tejo kissed her ass goodbye ( 
)
There was no reaction like when Mikl took her over from Henry at S&T.
She just kept on going like " mission accomplished, next please " This one did off course not fulfill the 20-minute-request.
I forgot one understandable reason for Kostja being taken back constantly.
Maybe Indira wanted him to learn a couple of things frim Victoria, like it’s not always pounding her hard to get her satisfied, but the way Victoria treated her snatch and entire body.
Symptomatic, that at the party at Shana, when I&K were to produce a sex-position, that the blindfolded players had to find out about by feeling, and recreate it, Indira chose scissors.
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so why at that M &M orgy did Indira start eying Mikl and Mikl started eyeing Indira. Next Indira takes Mikl’s hand and Mikl forgets all about Marica next to him. This went on while Kostja was fucking Indira. At this point Kostja just gave up Indira and she let it happen. Then Indira looked like totally in love first with Mikl and later with Tejo for the next 30 minutes of more. Meanwhile Kostja went back to smoking himself to death on the logia. When your love fucks you, you do not start flirting with the other guy, even more so when you know that Kostja will be left alone… Jirina took pity of Kosttja and rode him for or a while. Indira also appears in need of swapping remedial lessons. Even more so that this orgy happened right after a significant crisis where Indira was crying bitter tears on the logia and Kostja was comforting her and showing her his love and understanding. Considering that this episode started with tears on the logia, Indira offering her ass to anyone who cares to stick his dick in a few minutes of sex with Kostja followed by a marathon fuck with Mikl at Indira’s initiative - Indira’s behavior looked reckless while the whole episode looked psychadelic
I think both kostja and Indira at that time were still not sure about doing the swinging thing, and how to do it together. So Indira didn’t see a problem being away from Kostja to fuck for a while with Mikl, but, a couple of weeks later Indira realised, she needs Kostja in every way
Indira to my opoinion initiated, that Mikl fucked her.
She sought approval, and as I think Kostja gave it to her with a sign with his head.
So yes, Kostja gave her up again, after he first had traded her to Tejo, who fucked her for short time
and gave her back. Kostja got a blowjob from Jirina in exchange.
I think he was surprised later, for how long she was busy with Mikl.
During the change to Mikl, Indira kept the physical link to Kostja until Jirina got herself inbetween,
and that made him feel like being part of the deal, he was even loking around with the spectators.
Just wonder, if he gotthe better end of the deal, and I guess NOOOOT
I bet he would have gotten a better deal if he got Shana to ride him instead of Jirina
Although that in the same place failed lateron.