Guys let’s put this into perspective. It’s a car crash waiting to happen both I’m trying to point score against each other but deep down they truly love each other. They are just on a mission to hurt one another in the journey maybe Mira will come out the winner but maybe Henry will get his act together and smash it out of the park who knows? I have for many years seen many things but nothing quite like this two people living together but love each other now playing separately. They have always played as a couple. Henry always gave his consent for Mira to play around, however now she is taking the lead and Henry is hurting so he can’t leave Shelia for some reason she is his go to at the moment, however she isn’t good for Henry because the minute Henry looks at another woman she show signs of jealousy and we all know Henry will always look at other women. She will end up even more depressed and cry in Henry‘s absence lining her pills up as she’s already done before she won’t be able to cope with Henry & Mira living together and Mira isn’t going to keep washing their dirty sheets is she 
As I said it’s a car crash. I truly think Mira didn’t want to go out tonight alone but she couldn’t be seen to be in alone two nights on the trot I really hope they sort it out they are fantastic couple which give great showtime. Just saying please don’t shot me 
it is so weird, don’t post it here..
well your theory is nowhere near as spaced out as some of the ones said here, your comment is tenable , but not quite right , but i like your way of thinking
La langue Anglaise c’est comme la la française, russe, norvégienne, irlandaise ou argentine,etc, un bout de viande tout simplement 
Keeley this is not a Swing site.
I’ve been a Swinger with my wife for 6 years.
Swing has specific rules
-between solid couples
-in the same space
-at the same time
-complete agreement between partners etc
the others are agreed open relationships like Henry and others on this site.
I only referred to that moment, which seemed like a senseless provocation because it was THIS guy who made her leave the house.
(last post on this subject)
passionate or lively discussion ?
I find this way of hiding the bottles ridiculous and hypocritical. Everybody knows they’re liquor bottles
Where is the difference ??
Also, where did you get the total nonsense about the eastern culture from ? Henry? Lool
Abuse is abuse mate, no matter the country… If there is something different between the west and the east, then it’s the way the authorities are dealing with those abuses. In the lawless and corupt countries like the one they’re living in, it is more difficult for women to get the protection they need but not by any means that the abuse is accepted…
You seriously wrote a lot of nonsese there. Sorry
What I think he meant is what is seen as abuse socially, followed by what is seen as abuse politically.
Even in the so-called western countries, some things have only recently changed, e.g. the fact that ______ within marriage is a criminal offence has only been the case in Germany since July 1997.
In some countries, e.g. Sweden, only YES means YES during sex. Many countries have rather a NO means NO … So the other person must actively consent / or refuse …
Max, it is the same over in the east. The difference is that (because of the huge coruption at all levels) some “smart ones” with money or well placed friends, simply don’t care about the laws. They have their own ones. This is how it works over there
You have the same thing in the USA.
You can be a child molester and do it for years and be respected because you have money or power.
But you can also be with your girlfriend for half a year and she actively wants to have sex with you, but she’s not 18 and you didn’t know that. You are already in a child molester file and everyone can see where you live and you have to state that you are a child molester when you apply for a job.
In your second line, you perfectly described what we see here in this case, only without the word child…everything else fits perfectly
John You need to consider how broadly you define sexual violence/______.
Let me take the example of cheating, is it cheating when your girlfriend kisses another man or perhaps only during the final penetration?
It’s similar with the use of power or violence, everyone draws the (personal) line at a different point, right?
Because at what point are you a (co-)offender? From the moment you use money to buy a subscription to this site, for example, or only when you actively ______ a woman? (sorry for the harsh words)
I don’t think that there aren’t any shades of grey in that particular area Max. Everything is quite black and white.
It’s us here who can find subjective nuances, but the facts, are quite straight forward.
I would say that certain actions are more black and white … but I mean the things from when it starts.
As I already asked you, when does cheating start for you? You can’t tell me that it’s black and white!
Sexual harassment/______ has also become more and more serious … You mean just because there were a high number of reports at the Oktoberfest in Germany this year that it was much more than in previous years. I say no, more reports are being made and things are being reported that used to be dismissed as trivial.
