I would say that demands are already being made indirectly through the forum. Be it just that certain people come or you want to see certain sexual acts.
Payment is indirect, which means that more viewers mean more money.
Why does that make any difference, at all? A payment is a payment. Do you really think that not knowing who made the payment means itâs not a porn site? A payment is a payment.
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How is it any different? Every month on VHTV, a portion of every subscriberâs payment goes to the tenants. On CB every month, a portion of the tokens paid by the viewers goes to the people on CB. The only difference is what itâs called; tokens vs subscriber payments.
You only pay for a view through the cams, but you and I both know that EVERYBODY here comes to watch naked people and watch them have sex.
I have nothing but respect for you, as well, and Iâm happy, more than you know, that we could have a civil discussion about this. You might not believe that this is a porn site, but I will always disagree that this is a voyeur site.
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I can explain to you how this site and CB have nothing in common except nudity and sex. Probably the truth about being a porn site or a voyeur site seats somewhere in the middle. Some Realms are more porn others more voyeurism. I will pm you if ok to explain about this and CB.
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In all fairness, I was replying to something above this before you made this comment, so I didnât know you said this until after I posted it.
Yes, of course, itâs fine.
Sure i know why i come onto this site and a lot of it relates to naked girls and sex, BUT i have donated half a dozen times with absolutely no connection to the amount of sex or actions i have liked. Most of them were Ukrainia related - i felt that the individuals needed as much help as they could get and sending something direct i knew it would go to someone i liked and admired, rather than just into a large fund not knowing what would happen to it.
A couple of payments were just to nice people, where i thought they could do with some help. My only point is that i do not consider that i am paying them to perform.
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Another question. Itâs extremely wierd that this isnât written anywhere, to the point that it looks really shady. What is the value of the coins when you donate them? We can buy coins in different quanta for different prices, but when we donate them, what are they worth? If we send 100 coins, roughly how much do they get? This should have been written on the pop-up when you click on the donate button.
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Well CB and similar sites pay the participants i think about 0.1% of the tips given so for every 100 tips the participant gets roughly 10.
No doubt similar figures may apply to the VH system but i have no way of knowing of the exact % the participant gets.
But you can bet your bottom dollar it ainât very much and VH do very well out of it quite possibly.
Thatâs one reason i will never buy any coins to donate as I think it is a complete rip off for the subscriber.
The fact that it isnât stated anywhere makes me very wary to start with.
Even if the participant gets 50% why should the other 50% get taken.
If anyone knows better then do advise us as i would only be too pleased to get proved wrong.
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I see further up in this thread, they say itâs 70% to the participants, and 30% to VHTV. If that is correct, I think it sounds pretty fair. But 70% of what?
We can buy coins at different rates. Depending what plan you used.
If you buy 30 coins for $5, then 100 coins can be worth $16.
If you buy 1000 coins for $100, then 100 coins can be worth $10.
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Well that sounds more reassuring but even so it wouldnât do any harm to give the exact percentage participants received just to put viewers minds at rest and to know exactly what they are giving to the participants.
Thanks.
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Appreciate your point, but why should the rates vary in the first place as it just gives rise to possible speculation that the whole thing is a sales drive with discounts available which in my view is not the purpose, which is to purely give money to participants if you feel inclined to do so.
Then again to have 30% deducted is a large chunk of any donation, if this is correct.
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Thatâs totally incorrect. The donations are not going to the participants but to their managers. From there, it is totally at their discretion if the participants are getting something or not.
Those numbers came from @stanley, I donât know where he had it from.
These percentages were posted publically here on the forum by VHTV.
70% to the participant
10% to the manager
10% to VHTV
10% for processing fees
If you believe the manager has not passed the 70% on to the participant, raise a support ticket for VHTV to investigate.
https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donation-option-to-recurring-guests/5905/5
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Post deleted by author duplicate answer.
The quoted post from VHTV is now almost 3 years old.
And they still havenât managed to define the actual donation value of the coinsâŚ
I think nothing will happen in the next few years.
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I havenât seen that list but I think VHTV & manager shouldnât receive a percentage because itâs a Donation for the Participant
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