Discussion about Hamas attack on Israel and conflict (Operation Iron Sword)

If truth is made between your ears, then yes, end of discussion



For example, а video recorded on a video recorder appeared on the Internet, where NAMAS fighters throw grenades into a bunker. A man runs out of it, whom the terrorists later shoot in the back.

This is one of the friendliest videos, I’ve already clicked away a few that I didn’t want to see any further.
c___dren who were r__ed and slaughtered…
shooting people who have absolutely no idea what is going on
and so on…
the cruelty there can only be punished with one thing… death

Unfortunate on both sides. Just for a taste, Israeli soldiers snipe playing c___dren for fun:

I know… and it cannot be justified in any way, although the behavior can be explained.

I do hope that when this is over, there will be a proper separation that cannot simply be climbed through or over.

Now they could make a hole in the fence with a shovel and the terrorists arrived on tractors, scooters and mopeds


Russia knew about the plans of the Hamas terrorist movement to attack Israel. Russia also handed over Western weapons to terrorists that it had captured in the war against Ukraine, - representative of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine Yusov

Soon, Russian propaganda will start filming fakes about Ukrainians handing over weapons to terrorists.

It is only a matter of time.

@liveukraine_media

Is that verified to be real? The source to me sounds more than biased…


:clown_face:The Hamas speaker states that they did not k__l civilians, but all the bodies and video evidence are allegedly Israeli propaganda.



Drone footage from the Nova festival reveals the horror :cold_sweat:

Unfortunately it is. All this just goes to show that there are no nice/fair wars, on either side. War always brings out the ugliest in people.

Most worryingly, all this is happening now, in the modern age. What is more, we are inventing how to k__l as many people as possible in as little time as possible. To me, this is mind blowing.

As a civilisation, we are regressing in our relations with each other and we are approaching what used to be called barbarians. Slaughter for fun, in 2023. I don’t care what nation or religion it is, we are all the same in this.

I could paste a bunch more video for you, but I won’t. I am…devastated.

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This guy is only writing against Israel and has a lot of tweets making me question his neutrality as a source for news. So no I do not believe that.

:eyes:It is reported that American special f___es have arrived in Israel to conduct a special operation to free American hostages in the Gaza Strip.

Babies and c___dren were among those k__led during Saturday’s attack by Hamas, according to Israel’s military.

More than 1,000 people are now known to have died in the raid by Palestinian fighters who used bulldozers, hang gliders and motorbikes to cross the border from Gaza into Israel before shooting soldiers and civilians and taking other Israelis hostage.

The Israeli military has also said it shelled Syria on Tuesday after rockets hit open areas on Israeli territory.

The military did not accuse any group of the rocket attack and the Syrian government did not comment.

Israel-Gaza latest: Israel warns its offensive ‘won’t be clean’

US President Joe Biden said at least 14 Americans were among those k__led in the Hamas incursion, and he was sending extra military assistance to Israel, including ammunition and interceptors to replenish the Iron Dome defence system.

He said he would make sure the Israelis have what they need to defend themselves, insisting the US “has Israel’s back” as he condemned Hamas’s assault as an “act of sheer evil”.

Jabs, you criticised Jerel above for implying that Israel was conducting ethnic cleansing. You are correct of course but in a sense you are not i.e. they already did - in plain sight.
People have short memories!

Hear what Harriet Cooke-Cohen (jewish I suspect) has to say about it:-

'Had we acknowledged that we built modern Israel on stolen land and that 750,000 Palestinians were expelled or fled; had we made some effort at reparation; had we treated Palestinians with the same rights as we treat Israeli Jews; had there been one law for all people, as taught by Leviticus 24: 22, it is much more likely that so much of this violence could have been prevented.

But a justice system that allows ongoing theft and violence against a people can only lead to deepening rage and violence. May we learn from these attacks and fight against all justice and violence. May we grieve all of the deaths, wounding and horrific oppression.’

This is really Netanyahu’s biggest failing, running a tacit system of ethnic apartheid within a so called democracy and getting away with it. What comes around…etc.
Not an excuse for violence or atrocities of course but running what is in effect an open air prison for 56 years (Gaza) and deliberately preventing Palestinian enfranchisement (unforgivable) and the basic necessities of life is perhaps the best way to stoke life long grievances and desperation is it not?

The best thing that can happen is for Netanyahu to be kicked out and for Israel to stop this corrupt system of ethnic apartheid that they have got away with since 67.
Therein might lie the seeds of peace?

Netanyahu has to be careful. For most of Israel’s existence it has received American backing because of the need to protect access to oil fields. In that sense the commercial exploitation of US shale has reduced that imperative.

it’s only getting worse over there :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


:zap:Syria shelled Israel. Israeli artillery responds.

Israel is now under fire from three sides.


actual there…

I smell Putin! Takes the focus off Ukraine. Can’t see Syria invading however.

It is not just Putin. It is Iran as well. They have always supported everything against Israel.

Yes but Putin is active in Syria.

As I said bomb Iran and Syria back to the stone age. Time to finally make Tabula rasa there…

Quite agree on that John. Iran wants to destabilise the region to stop Israel reaching a partnership with Saudi Arabia. As Swish has said Putin has got his fingerprints all over this with him propping up Assad in Syria.

what about the civilians?