Cooper & Charlize

It seems the whole realm is deleted from the site? I cant find it anymore.

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Its been deleted for hours and with good reason

I understand there was a good reason, but will the place stay deleted forever or is just the guy who caused it all banned and the place will return?

your guess is as good as mine but if it does i hope with new people

Hope with the same ladies, specially the guest ladie was gorgeous, hope to see her again. But if this is the same ladie as the victim of coopers misbehavioure, then she can better stay away for her own mood and mental health.

WOW!!! I knew the Cooper asshole was an idiot just by looking at him. To me, Charlize is an enabler by being with such a stupid fucked up aggressor. The other roommate/tag teammate is just as fucked up. How VHTV can’t judge people and have leniency and are quick to pass the blame onto managers is beyond me. VHTV as owners - you and ONLY you own it. Best you rethink your business plan. Again, sex rules and troublemakers are prime contestants - come on down. True old style voyeurism only exists in the Hector & Marla apartment.
Personally I can’t stomach this s__t or all the diehard porn/sex addicts that will turn around and tell me “no one is f_____g you to watch VHTV”. I guess VHTV is more or less “extreme voyeurism” and most of the tenants/guests are actors for the porn cams and are not living a normal real life. Ninety percent of guests tenants are there for “sex for money rewards” - period.
Sad reality - porn actors and a___ers will attract more subscribers to VHTV - new norm about people.

This is my last post on the subject so please dont reply. We have 3 months left on our membership and when my girlfriend gets back we will have to decide if we will renew after this. We signed up for a bit of fun, not for what happened last night. I know this is a one off since my membership started 3 and a half years ago but at this moment in time my enjoyment has gone out the window so we have to decide what we will to over the next month or so.

Thank you for your advice and judgement, we will definitely take it under advisement.

My thoughts exactly

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I would rather say that the first people “lived” their Freedom, whereas those of today “manage” this one: and it is not a detail.
As for EU, I can tell you that this “joy” is extinguished.

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I know what you mean, many EU countries are literally going the way of socialism - the state is too much and it imposes a lot of things. But I like to believe that this is just a pendulum that keeps swinging from left to right. It is good when it swings with a small amplitude, as in Europe, much worse when the amplitude is huge, as in Russia. But this topic is not about politics, I suggest we end it there.

Sorry for the knitpicking, Socialism is only about distribution of wealth, not about controling people’s lifes. A socialist can also be an anarchist. Libertarianism is a form of Socialism. But Socialism can be totalitarian and oppressive. It has nothing to do with that. What you are refering to is Liberalism vs. Totalitarianism. And yes, you are right, Europe is sadly moving away from the liberal values and personal freedom. In fact, simultaneously Europe is also moving away from some socialist values that we used to have.

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I didn’t see full scenes of what happened. What I can tell is that Cooper was having sex on his room with his girlfriend, the other boy and with another girl. He then went to the living room with some intention for sex with the other girl. He then understood that she v___ted. He checked on her and cleaned the mess. Over that period i didn’t see any attempt of bad behavior/sex. In fact, that was the flat i tend to watch more time, and the boys (both) are always very respectful with the girls. When they say no, they stop.

I didn’t see the scenes on the bathroom and after, but i am feeling very surprised that the boys would r__e a girl (and for sure i am not seing Asher doing it at all, he is quite an angel with very low experience on sex). What i am sure is that they all were very _____, boys and girls.

Wasn’t with that girl that v___ted on the sofa. Was on the day after with a totally different girl

And besides the girl that was a___ed none of the others (Charlize Cooper Asher) seems to be _____.

It is certain that losing one of its best “engines” is economically a problem.
If what has been called r__e here remains in the VHTV sphere, a “gentlemen agreement” will be found. Now if there is a complaint to the police, that’s another story. But who could file a complaint? The girl? A subscriber? It seems improbable to me: too many worries in prospect!
Another element, how to explain the reopening of the apartment to the “most sensitive” subscribers (who are also the most talkative here)?
Finally, who has the right to qualify the event as r__e? From one country to another the definition is not the same.
I think the most serious thing in the story, for me, is Cooper’s personality going insane on the loggia. He scared everyone too much.

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There is still time to leave that bulls__t EU and move to Britain :grin:

then, apologies. I thought that was the scene from the night before

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I’m from Norway, we’re not in the EU, and I hope we never will be.

Angelina Jordan best singer on planet shes a treasure of norway

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So, the decision has been made. What I’m about to write, many people here will not like it. And those people’s opinions are valuable to me. Just know that I am writing this with the full knowledge that it will not be popular here.
56 realm remains in this line-up. Yes, everyone involved in this unseemly event has been punished, and the punishment is stricter than our current franchisee agreements provide. I’ve spoken to the managers, I’ve spoken to Cooper. I’ve looked into the situation, and it’s definitely the fault of the franchise, and of me personally as its manager. We don’t explain to everyone involved what violence is and what consent is, in sufficient detail and persistently. Our chains of communication are not set up well enough. So it would certainly be much easier for me to get rid of these guys and tell the managers to “look for other, better ones”, but that wouldn’t be fair to them. So your anger towards me, and the need to spend some of the profits to better organise our information chains, is my part of the punishment for this incident.
I feel it is necessary here to tell you about our conversation with Cooper. For him, for the guest girl, for everyone involved, this was not something unacceptable. That said, when I began to tell them that you cannot have sex with a person unless they actively consent to it, they were all sympathetic to these things, and unlike the r____ts who have been banished before, I am confident that this will not happen to these guys again. Also, as a precautionary measure, we want to impose a condition on this realm - no _____ing. No _____ing. A bottle of ■■■■ or vermouth and juice per party, no more. Because a_____l is too often the cause of such incidents. This restriction will be imposed for three months. Naturally, in the event of a repeat of this incident the realm will be deleted immediately.
I also feel it necessary to tell you what we plan to do, so that everyone, managers and participants alike, will not only learn about the culture of consent, but also become its ardent supporters. Most importantly, we plan to engage an expert in this field to help us draw up an action plan. We plan to have regular contact with participants to educate them on how not to be an a___er. I can’t promise that you will be able to see these trainings online, but there will definitely be some. We have also already announced that we will be increasing the punishment for r__e incidents - from now on such incidents will mean immediate closure of the realm.
With respect for the whole community and with hope for understanding, yours truly.

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