Your comment makes no sense.
Pure invention. Possibly libel.
Wow. Award for melodrama goes to ā¦
Look, people get _____ or high, they have fights, they move on. Are you going to kick off about Otto and Lola being back? After what went down in one of their old apartments? S__t happens, people learn from their mistakes. Clearly VH take a similar view to mine. Clearly there was less to it than you want to believe. Give the lad a chance. Thatās all thatās being asked.
you your false accusation may have a meaning on the visitors
I think you mean assumption. An assumption that has been proven to be true be various guest/participants in the pastā¦
I wish they would. Itās ok though, I donāt seem them lasting on the project long.
It is more than melodrama when someone has to go to the hospital and get multiple stitches on their face. If it was a minor fight I would have a different opinion on the matter. However it was not a minor fight. I will ask you again did you see the fight that happened at Barbaraās because I did?
Iām going to preface this by saying that i will take Adilās word to give this guy another chance but I have some problems with some of the points you made
First itās not melodramatic to say that someone could die from being kicked repeatedly in the face while down.
Next you say this:
Which is essentially the same (maybe not to the same scale though) as when you say this
and this:
So while I think itās ok to give this guy a second chance on behalf of Adilās good will, you can do it without victim blaming
Did you actually see what happened that night?? It sounds like you havenāt got a clue about the events at Barbaraās that night. If the violence was just about āMr Crustyā then why did he also try to kick Yashaās head in? Or attack Bertie? He was there with them all for over an hour and had no problem with them - until he saw them having oral sex. It was quite obvious to anyone who saw what happened that the violence was directly related to his homophobic response to seeing that.
No amount of fake sexiness with Adil tonight can change what he did.
Seth and Albion I donāt wish it on you what happens to them and talks stupid and mean one day it will happen to you too
We donāt often agree but I 100% support what you have said here. Unfortunately Albion has had a chip on his shoulder towards me ever since we got into an argument over what is best for a dogās nutritional diet. I think that is partially where some of this current argument between us is stemming from.
Iām sorry Iām not trying to be rude but I am having a hard time understanding what you are saying. Are you using a language translator?
Youāre all throwing this accusation around with no clue what his motivation was. Thatās what Iām saying. You all want to paint him as a villain without knowing the full story. Itās a kangaroo court. Lynch mob mentality. And frankly thatās just as distasteful as anything youāre accusing him of.
I was putting forward a possible scenario, not stating a fact. unlike Seth who accused Tim of prostitution and Adil of procuring sexual gratification. Which is a libel.
Yes I saw what transpired. and yes, I read the hysteria in the forum. and again, people are making a mountain out a mole hill just as they always do. You donāt want the whole story, you just want someone to hate on.
Seth, as far as having a chip on my shoulder about a non event goes, it was forgotten as soon as it began. you wanted to argue, I couldnāt be bothered, I left the conversation. end of. you really donāt figure high enough in my regard to have any strength of feeling about you. As far as Iām concerned youāre just another internet Don Quixote shouting at windmills.
Noone is āaccusingā him of anything - we all saw what he did. If you think that what happened is āmaking a mountain out of a molehillā then that says more about you sadly. I wonder if youād be so forgiving if he was trying to kick your head in?
Adilās cynical attempt to try and get us to forget what he did by asking him to take his underwear off and stick his butt into the camera is really whatās truly distasteful hereā¦
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I agree with agree with you in regards to we donāt often know the full story, Iāve made this point many times myself. However itās not distasteful to call him violent, because regardless of the context, it was an incredibly violent act. Iām not accusing him of anything, just saying what he did was wrong and to say that the victims may have deserved it is very troublesome
As insulting as some of your comments toward me are, if you have truly put what I had previously said behind you and moved on then I apologize.
You donāt know what I want and now you are the one who is saying:
Tim broke VHTVās rules for violence. It was stated that he would be permanently banned from all +7 realms due to the severity of his actions. I think he should be held to that decision and not be allowed back on the project. That is what I want.
I think u r straightā¦ā¦
why does it even bother youā¦ who they wanna invite, may be he likes that guy and wanna see himā¦. Itās their choiceā¦ā¦
Donāt come between themā¦.
I would really like to hear @David and @stanleyās thoughts on Tim being allowed back on the project after being permanently banned from the project for violence. You both are level headed and I respect both of your opinions on the matter greatly.
It doesnāt matter if Iām straight. Violence and/or homophobia have no place on VHTV. People who exhibit these behaviors should be punished and if severe enough permanently banned from the project. Timās actions were deemed severe enough to be permanently banned.
Iām hoping this is a translation error but Artem if you are talking about Diba here then you are wrong, you have no rights to say who she can or canāt be with as she is not property, she is a person.
DeepL. Translates the same:
I wonāt give the dibs So he wonāt have any fun with her
As well as Google translate:
I wonāt give a dib so he wonāt have fun with her
So I am sure no error.
She donāt even enjoy him.almost like he f___es her. He just wants to s___f his s__t!
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Artem1345itās not up to you to make decisions for dilba