Warning to tenants, violence!

Not exactly, just some info that victim is ok, no prrsonal information is needed.

It would only open up more points of criticism and could further victimize the victim.

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I think you have already done and explained a lot today.
Many people thought that VHTV violence or a___e doesn’t matter as long as the money is right.
Some of her explanations have shed light on the darkness.

Information “Manager is in the apartment, solving issue” can be enough, with no victimization.

You still say far too much

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That’s understandable. But I am sure you guys are smart enough to know how much information can be released just to let people know that the incident has been taken care of and to warn the other participants that there are serious consequences to such behaviour.

@marcie59 you and I clearly have a different perspective on violence. That’s what I see in your case - “violence is always violence, I don’t want to look at it, just get it away from me”. In that approach, it doesn’t matter if the violence is happening somewhere or not, you just don’t want to see it. It’s an understandable point of view, I respect it, but that approach doesn’t reduce violence in general. My approach is to reduce the amount of violence in general. And if I have a chance to change the behavior of a violent participant, I will try to do so. Unfortunately, in Russia, where most of the reals take place, there are not, and are not expected to be, any legal ways to counteract domestic violence. That’s why I, in particular, see as one of my missions the reduction of violence at least where I can do something.

Separately, I would like to point out that your analogies with the “big brother” show contestant, the NASA employee, and the co-worker who punched someone are false. In all of your examples, the “r____t” is separated from the victim. If we just close the realm, these people will still be together, and the r____t will still be doing his thing.

All that is internal business stuff. When these things happens and cams go off and the footage gets deleted, that’s vhtv inforiming the audience that it’s being taken care of. Accept that the outcome was the best option for the situation and move on.

@Bluewinner That is absolutely exactly what it is. And I’ve already made it clear to everyone in the pages of this thread that I am intransigent to violence, so that none of the violence that has been identified will go without significant investigation.

I personally do accept that, that’s why I said I believe VHTV is dealing with the incidents professionally, but as you can see there are many on the forums who need further clarification.

This is the kicker that’s the expulsionists have a hard time grasping. This is why it is best to just leave it up to you guys to sort it out and do what’s going to be best for the situation at hand.

They don’t deserve it and vhtv would do well not to delve into it. Taking the apt offline and doing whatever they do behind the scenes is their business. That should be explanation enough.

If vhtv says anything it should be this. We’re handling it. Be cool!

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Turning off cameras is like looking away. The problem is not solved. andrey28 explained it well in Russian what I tried in English. Attitudes towards violence need to be changed. This is different in the world.

Leaving them on only creates a bigger audience that only further humiliates the victim. Vhtv can’t reach through the cams to stop anything. The victim is going to get it the same whether the cams are on or off.

But unfortunately, some viewers will never get that, and it’s just a matter of time another white knight will demand further closures and expulsions, and vhtv in its kindness will step up here to explain everything once again :grin:

Then explain this to me, violence is reported. The cameras go off. For a short time. When they light up back we see broken face of the victim. Complains starts to flood. Still, it shows beautifully how the rebel goes to rest peacefully, and the victim is squeezed in agony on the couch. Hours and hours.

How people wouldn’t get the feeling that nothing was done?

Just one sentence from CEO like “We are desperately trying to contact menager, no luck so far.” would be enough to calm majority of people here, at least in some degree.

We hope they do, we just don’t see it. Specially with camera rolling like nothing happened.

what realm did the violence take place

It will never be enough and before you know it they will enjoy their power over vhtv and they will start bending everything to their selfish desires it’s for the best, they’ll say. In some ways it’s nice that RLC says nothing.

I support wholeheartedly the intentions of this thread in trying to stop violence in any way or form, and I also acknowledge the difficult situation that VHTV finds itself in.

The positive thing to come out of this is that paying members will not and cannot accept this and this has been firmly established and I really don’t care where you come from as it is wholly unacceptable.

The participants of these realms should take note of our distaste in this matter and raising this issue on the forums should be looked at as constructive, not negative criticism and I hope and pray they do take notice.

As I said we should acknowledge the difficult situation that VHTV finds itself in and support them in trying to sort out this out as they have a clear motivation to do so, as it is clear that paying members do not like this and it would be foolish for them not to act.

So guys please give them a break to try and sort this out and we can monitor the situation and well done so far for what they have done so far and an even bigger thanks to the OP @Handsdown for rasing this.