VHTV and the Chamber of Chatters

nobody ever not even vhtv disagree that Managers do all kind of shady horible bissness behind courtains.i think managers is the bigest contreversy in vhtv history.

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Totally agree and i’ve said it time after time after time: these apartments/managers are exactly the ones that totally “killed” the Vhtv spirit. It was Anna&Alex at first, then Henry followed, then Flora did the same ( she was “killed” by the others quite fast), and now back to the main gang of managers doing the exact same type of fake apartments. Old time parties ? What for all the trubble ? It is easier to find few workers and fake everything. All the problem is on the managers, especially the 2 main ones. It is this simple

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Not all of them, there are very specific ones :slightly_smiling_face:

Most of the people I was in contact with left the project in debt.

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Exactly the same here and we haven’t been in contact with the same people at all. I didn’t wanted to give numbers ( we’re not even allowed to do so) but i’m sure that will leave “open - mouthed” most of the people here

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This project does not pay good money. It’s only good as supplemental income on top of a steady base income from another job and should be treated as a part time endeavor, but too many people have thought and tried to make this a full time thing and that almost never works out that way.

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It’s not really the project that doesn’t pay good money. It’s the managers/studios existence. Not to mention that, in some cases, on the chain, there are more than the main managers: ( see Medea or Y&R ). And after this, is the payment system, imagine that they’re doing (whatever they do) without having a single clue if they’re getting something for it or not. The fact that they’re accepting something like this, is mind blowing for me

Basically, there’s no real chance of fantastic earnings because you constantly have to navigate between what’s possible to offer the viewer. If you want to stay consistently at the top of the ratings, you have to go to extremes (sex, parties, eccentricity), which in turn drives up costs, food, drinks, accessories and so on. Then there are various penalties that some managers exploited for manipulation, on a personal level, as payment-related ones.

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I remember talking to a few tenants who have expressed problems trying to throw parties with no money, where they had to throw the parties to make money but they needed to make money first in order to throw parties. Once you get caught in that cycle it’s pretty much game over.

Add in the fact that (on top of having to split earnings with the manager), your potential audience is split between 50 other apartments and your chance of developing a fanbase is significantly reduced. Then it comes down to, as you pointed out, not only doing extremes but maintaining those extremes because the attention you temporarily attract is constantly fleeting.

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I have brought this here as it is massively off topic

You have taken the part you have quoted out of context, your complaint is about similar spelt names, they do sound quite differently if spoken

You have stated that you cannot tell them apart from their physical features

I’m not dismissing the importance of names

my point I was trying to make in this instance was it didn’t matter if one was called JJ or Peter Robert if you are not able to tell them apart,

I was trying to say it didn’t matter if they had extremely different names or similar names, you would still have the same issues telling them apart because the issue for you is Physical features and not what names they are called

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Clearly trolling for me. @kaya should take a look there…

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They need to remove that feature and any tracking of arbitrary points on profiles too

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Quite right Jabbath. I couldn’t see any valid reason for the thumbs down or even the angry emoji. I wish that members who downvote a post clarify the rationale behind the vote.

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this forum is turning into a Camcaps revival , If there was ever a time for a hands on moderator (that actually understands the role ) that time is now , obviosly Kaya does her best but shes not active enough to ensure a smooth runnning forum , im not saying the moderator needs to be a dictator but more of an Arbiter ,Someone with authority that can improve relations between members and quell any tensions between members by nipping them in the bud as they happen and not hours or days later,

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It seems that Carlos’s team of sock puppet accounts is getting bigger and bigger :laughing:

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As it’s clear to all of us that you have something personally against Angela, can you also explain to us why you chose her (she only downvoted one or two posts) and not a single one of the 4 or 5 sock puppet accounts that Carlos is using non stop in ALL the forum topics ?

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Come on John where is your evidence? I thought you didn’t like it when people get accused with zero evidence?

Kaya doesn’t know who they are so how do you?

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Because he was the one who joined the downvoting team there and usually does not do it. Of course the others are trolling as well. No need to argue about that :wink:

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As i don’t follow that Topic, i had no idea about this. And i won’t hide that i’m more than surprised and still convinced that all of them accounts are Carlos’s sock puppets accounts. They are ALL together reacting to black and white images and when the people have clothes on. The exact same pattern. Can not be just a coincidence

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Oh, i assume that the down votes you’re referring to, are just a “friendly reactions exchange” with Alek228242 :joy:

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