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Nice Vesnaā:smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
I love you
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I only just noticed they are at Mikl and Leonoraās placeā¦
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Yes, it says they are relocating so theyāre trying to find another place to stay
Huh. One more thing I only just noticed today, during a little emotional episode. Neither the word āscarā nor ācaesarianā gives a search result in this topic, but has it ever been brought up that she has a very caesarian looking scar on her belly?
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Iām sure I mentioned it before, but I will reiterate, it is none of the business of us perverts what participants clearly sensitive personal histories might be.
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Ah yes, my earlier response on the same subject
Iām only talking about what can be observed on the cameras here, which is what she signed up for. It is the participantsā decisision to give up their privacy and put themselves on display 24/7, scars and all.
It. Is. None. Of. Our. Business. Just because you pay a nominal fee per month does not grant you carte blanche to the ins and outs of peoples personal histories.
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Fully agree. The health of participants is private information and shall stay that way. The only exception is if they decide to share it themselves.
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I honestly think you guys are being a bit over protective here, though I also donāt care enough to die on this hill.
When the participants put their naked bodies on display on a website that is all about stuff that usually is nobody elseās business, simple observations of the marks that life has left on their bodies seem to be fair game. You could also say those marks are information that they deliberately share with us. Also, have you considered that the notion, that these marks are things we must not talk about, may carry more stigmatization and moral judgement than the simple observation itself?
It is also none of my business whether or not she likes to swallow her boyfriendās cum, but here we may merrily discuss these things. So please take care not to bump your halos on the chandelier, the moral ceiling in this building hangs a bit low.
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I agree. People have commented on various marks, scars, tattoos, etc., on the bodies of participants and guests countless times over the years of this forum, and a not a single word was ever said about not commenting on them.
Interesting. If you cannot distinguish between baring ones flesh and baring ones soul then I have nothing more to say to you on the matterā¦
It is, to be blunt here, and frankly unfair to the participants but shocking that it needs to be said but all in likely hood a caesarean scar, which would indicate a child that is clearly not in their life which undoubtedly would be extremely traumatic and none of the business of busybodies who have nothing better than to comment on a forum. This is speculative of course and I personally hope that I am wrong because I do not wish this trauma upon them.
This is the juicy little tidbit of gossip you so eagerly seek, this little nugget of information that will get you salivating like a rabid dog as to why fucking else would you ask such a question? Even going so far as to yourself as naming what the scar likely is?
You need to get off your high-horse and stop accusing others of wearing halos, you pay to watch people fuck. Youāre a pervert like the rest of us.
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Sorry Iāve taken so long to respond to this, I know you have been axiously waiting, but Iāve been having a very exhausting week at work and just wasnāt in the mood, and brevity really isnāt my strong suit, as you will see. But thereāe a few things I still wanted to say about this.
It is kind of amusing that you, of all people (more about that later), should accuse me, of sitting on a high horse. Because, let me tell you, sometimes you do come across as a little bit judgemental. In fact, all the malice that you ascribe to my initial post is only your judgement, only what you read into it. And, believe it or not, you got that wrong.
I think Iāve been fairly consistent in voicing my opinions about VHTV, and that sometimes includes pointing out signs of the participantās problems and troubled past. Like the scars that speak of a history of self harm, or vesnaās scar, or Fenrirās Nazi tattoos. I donāt do that to belittle the participants (other than Fenrir, heās an asshole), but because I think for most participants VHTV is very precarious employment, it is utilizing people who donāt have much options, and a lot of them seem to be just drifting, not headed for a very bright future. And I think itās good not to completely ignore that.
What makes VHTV more interesting, for us, than, letās say pornhub, is that we have the oportunity to get to know these people a little better and see them more as real human beings than just as sex objects. As of Vesna specifically, while previously Iāve mostly just taken notice of her for some really nice cock sucking and cum swallowing, that realization about her has immensly raised my sympathy for, and interest in her.
Thatās why I shared that observation as a point of human interest and was careful to avoid any implication of moral judgement in my initial post. And I still think, though very personal, it was a legitimate thing to point out because it is openly visible and she deliberately letās us see it. And in that sense I also think VHTV participants are baring more than just their flesh, because thereās a huge difference between doing a camming session for a few hours, or performing in a strip club, and putting yourself under 24/7 surveillance wich pretty much negates any privacy even in your home.
We donāt know the whole story about Vesnaās caesarian scar, but thereās clearly a stor y there. It is in plain sight and she does not hide that scar, is not putting a veil of silence over the subject matter. And she has to be very much aware that people who notice that scar will connect the dots. If we make it a taboo to talk about this, declare it a trauma that must not be touched upon (ignoring trauma is the worst approach, btw), it brings about some implication that is has to be a dark secret. Earlier I called that judgement by stigmatization. Whereas a scenario that I imagine may speak more of responsibility than guilt or sin.
But that all sounds very academic and preachy. The point is, you totally misundersood the motivation of my original post. But I do see that there are those in this forum who would raise such a oint with malice and judgement on their mind. Though they would probably point your nose directly at the moral judgement they want you to make. And I do have to admit this is not the first time I have been completely misunderstood here. Maybe I still believe too much in the good in people or underestimate the toxicity of this place. Or maybe sometimes Iām just to subtle for this crowd.
I try not to be too subtle. Just look at my avatar. Could I be any more upfront about my dirty mind? Despite the essay above, Iām really not a social justice warrior, Iām mostly here for the cock sucking. Never pretended to be an angel sitting on a high horse.
Talking about avatars and high horses. This brings us back to why above I said itās kind of funny that you, of all people, should accuse me of sitting on a high horse. Look at my avatar again. Now look at yours. May I point out that you literally made the high horse your avatar? Projecting virtue and, at the same time, spewing contempt for others you assume to be less virtuous. That is pretty much a text book example of a high horse. That high horse thing really made me chuckle when I first read your last post, and I admit I have a big grin on my face writing this.
I hope youāre not feeling personally attacked by this overly long post. I know your heart is in the right place, and Iām really not your enemy.
To finish on a lighter note, hereās a nice gif of Vesna I made today.
Peace out.
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I appreciate your long-winded and reasoned post, however I must admit my attention is far too fleeting to respond in kind.
I do not necessarily agree with you on this matter but fully do on the Fenrir matter for example (of which I still find abhorrent VHTVās response or lack thereof)
I will briefly say this, I changed my avatar due to the many posts and as a fuck you to the Trump supporters in the relevant topic. I also donāt feel that not being a cunt is somehow being on a high-horseā¦(you mentioned about thinking too much of people?)
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Who cares, not our problem!