Jirina (Part 1)

I don’t think indira just cares about sex, i think the reason she and kostja have only swapped a few times is, even she isn’t comfortable anymore. I remember Bruno was at their place, he put his arms around the two of them, and asked them what they wanted, and when they said they weren’t comfortable doing something with him, he hugged her, shook his hand, and that was that

Indira gets more sex, love and care every single day and often many times a day than any one else in that group. When you get that much sex from someone you love, why would you feel the need from anyone else.

The actor Paul Newman, who for decades was married to actress Joanne Woodward, once asked if he does not feel like getting some from other places, responded: why would I want hamburger from anywhere when I have prime steak at home

Pendant que T la baisait pendant le gang-bang, elle avait la tête dans l’oreiller presque tout le temps. Quand sa tête n’était pas dans l’oreiller elle n’avait aucune expression de plaisir et gardait les yeux fermés. En outre, elle était silencieuse, pas de gémissements de plaisir. C’est APRES, qu’elle s’est mise à sourire : soulagement parce que c’était fini ? je le pense.

Par ailleurs, avant que ça commence vraiment et pendant que K est en travers du lit, on voit clairement qu’elle l’appelle en le caressant avec ses pieds sous la couverture. Sans succès, puisqu’il était complètement saoul, il a juste été capable de quitter la pièce en trombe en l’abandonnant. On connait la suite: elle s’est laissée faire, comme elle se laissait faire par Troy avant de connaitre K.

Tu as raison. C’est tout a fait vrais tel que tu le decris. C’est seulement a la fin qu’elle avais cette air de triomphe avec Tejo et Mikl


Is this ring there under cam 3 for ring dancing of a hot blonde today in the party ??

And this type of behaviour from Indira f___e me to think that Indira kostja love story all plotted to attract more viewers only as both of them well aware the kind of environment VHTV apartments have. Indira should be well aware that kostja already want her to fuk others to make more money.

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but may be Kostjia does not want her to fuck others to make more money but simply because they are told to fuck others or else they are out of VHTV. Once again, K & I conversation as to what came down from above: you shall fuck others.

I don’t blame VHTV ever. They are just doing business legal or illegal, right or wrong those thing are debatable question. It is pretty obvious that before entering to VHTV both party have a well defined point wise contract (otherwise I don’t think anybody want to jump in blindly) and orgy part, swapping, swinning etc should be part contract as per my guess. It is participant who look a life in it and enjoy it. So logically its all depends on participants.

But yes i am agree with @Kade181727 that Indira is living in dilemma at present moment between VHTV and her love affairs with kostja. Because her emotions smile and intimacy with kostja looks so real to me

Their emotions are real and as a result they do have a dilemma. This is why some of us were discussing in January/February that for K &I to remain in VH, ideally they ought to develop a set of friends of their own age with whom they can develop comfort swapping. If they can do that, they can have a long term future at VH. At that time already the suggestion was being made that Mikl and Shana would be a good starting point.
I see a problem with this to the extent that Mikl is not someone to be trusted (even for some weird reason Indira trusts him and turns toward him for advice)
They do not need to have parties every day. I recall way back, H&M did not have parties every day. Sometimes weeks went by without any parties. The good thing was that they were always working at getting to know knew people.

There is a word she can use… It is called NO! She makes the decision not any one else.

I do not believe that the I&K problem is caused by VHTV itself!

It is the representative, in this case, Henry that is pushing them into unwanted activity!

While he may not be the official Manager of these apartments, He does appear to be the one who set them up, and it looks as if he is in control of the money for all the apartments in his group, including the S&T apartment, which was one he set up, and is now sadly falling apart since they seem to have been outlawed from the group!

I would prefer to see I&K make a partnership with S&T and start a competing group against M&H, So that they can be with a younger group starting with a couple that they already have some experience with.

practically No is not an option

Sure she can say no, and probably find herself the same day without a roof over her head and and income. Yet there are so many apartments on VH where there are couples who lead their lives on camera for a very long time and they are not faced with such ultimatums. After all, K & I are the main attraction of this apartment - I do not hear much clamoring on this forum for Jirina to do more gang-bangs. That means that K &I are self-sustainable. They do not need anything more to add to their act to be able to pay the rent

Didn’t you say the love was not real,… Make up your mind. :joy: :rofl: By the way he told Karl that they were in love. So there is that.

Your reasoning is great. I appreciate it. But then i can not find a reason for them to be part of VHTV for long. A loving couple cant be survive in kind of environment both f___e to have around them every time. Parties are well organised by apartment managers and ask from VHTV too. I guess its part of contract also. You can find joy over her face and in her scintillating dance moves after hosting each party successfully and got escape from a nasty swapping situation.

you misunderstood me my friend. I have a very loving gf. I found Love is the only thing you can survive with for long. Rest ended up in graves sooner than as expected. Here I am just sharing my views and analysis (as office is closed today and i have nothing serious to do :rofl: :rofl:) with you chatters nothing else. And yes i still have my doubt that Indira kostja love is real not just plotted for viewrs

i hope Indira cant find this post and continue with her dance moves without any modification

I don’t know if Kostja care for Mikl much after the last swap. It seemed not to end well. JMO. could be wrong on this.

Yes it is. They can get a different manager, be one themselves. Or ask the manager to move them to there own realm. As stated, there are a lot of realm that are monogamous.