Discussion about Russian invasion of Ukraine

I said nothing about descendants. Must be a translation problem. I said offspring can figure it out.

That won’t work. I said we apparently can’t figure it out or we would have. All you will get with trying to f___e countries to sign the papers is a gang mentality. Yes they still would have enough resources to build nukes and enough food and water to trade. Just add up all the free countries as you call them and all others fall to the second category and will band together. This is the problem we have always faced. World peace is not attainable due to greed and power of some rulers. If you want to call them that.

After the meeting in Ramstein Dutch defence minister Kajsa Ollongren told reporters that the Netherlands will provide Ukraine with “a limited number” of (PzH2000) self-propelled howitzers. Ukrainian artillery personnel will be trained in Germany which will also donate ammunition.

Euan MacDonald

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Putin gives UN Secretary General AntĂłnio Guterres the long table treatment. One theory is that the table is intended to make Putin look distant and intimidating, although the effect instead tends to be ludicrous.


John Sweeney @johnsweeneyroar
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Why the long table? I asked my Ukrainian friend Semyon Gluzman - the 1st psychiatrist to challenge Soviet a___e of psychiatry? “It’s the difference between him and his death.” The little spy fears old age and then the only end of age. H/T Philip Larkin

So, in other words, fuck it. We are humans with failures and we will eventually fail big time - BOOOOMMM!!!. Giving up is easier than trying. Nuclear threat will be mankind’s own doing and we will live in constant fear. The problem with people is that some don’t listen and some will always disagree. Over the years, in the past, I found that when discussing topics people would tend to agree with what was said but nowadays I find that most people will argue to the point of “agree to disagree”.

After saying all this - the world leaders have failed Ukraine to the point of watching thousands get k__led. Oh wait, the threat of a nuclear war tied the leaders hands so it is more than okay for Russia to be free to totally destroy a country while all the countries supplying weapons and cash money will suffer with their growing debt. Good going dumbass leaders. By the way, Ukraine tried to join NATO but slow poke leaders hum and hawed at approving Ukraine into NATO. Now how is that working out?

Personally I don’t fear the red button as long as everyone else comes along for the ride with me.

You scare me.

I kind of get your point. And I think the nuclear threat going out from Russia is making less people and governments afraid each day. Look at February 24th when the war started. Everybody thought Russia will win fast and Ukraine will be done in a few days. No government was keen in intervening or considering to deliver big amounts of weapons to Ukraine because of the nuclear threat.

Now look where we are now (today): The British declare without any fear that they do not mind Ukraine attacking targets in Russia with British weapons (mainly rockets)
Even Germany is now ready to deliver heavy weapons like battle tanks and heavy anti air tanks and even will train the soldiers for it.
Nuclear threat? Fuck off Russia.

I think when Russia really uses any kind of nuclear weapon in that war they are fucked. First of all China will no longer support them. Second it already showed the Russian air defense is crap. With a NATO intervention many weapons there can be neutralized before they are even able to launch. But I think an operation to behead the government would be already enough.

So I mainly agree to your statemet to not fear the red button.

Germany sends tanks to Ukraine as US says Russia “will be defeated”

These are not just old tanks. They were parked at the manufacturer and kept up to date in case Germany might need them again some time in the future. So radar technology and combat computers are very capable and will get the Russians a lot of headaches… :smiling_imp:

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Well done Germany :+1: although it should have been done weeks ago but I suppose better late than never. As Putin ramps up this war it really is important Western countries ramp up our supplies. We cannot be seen to be weak. Everything that needs to be done is finally being done involving more than 40 countries and it is definitely affecting things for Putin as he made more threats today. The World is beginning to understand his threats are about as effective as his army :poop:

Gets better and better.

Shouldn’t it be losses? With two “s” ? :wink:

But I bet they will lose a lot more in the future. Their dignity they already lost at first days of war…

:joy:

Yeah but you had better take it up with the publishers if you are that worried :laughing:
Another 3 months and they wil have hardly fuckall left :laughing:

I hear they are thinking of invading Moldova now :laughing:

Yeah they will fail again. Maybe they should file for NATO membership real quick. Just like Finland does :joy:

No one said to give up. If Ukraine did try to apply to NATO before the war that type of thing should be changed now. Don’t matter what your country is like and long as you are trying to be a free country. Accept them in. Just makes you stronger in the long run. JMO.
I also don’t think Russia will get away with this free. Sending weapons’ of the same class as Russia has to Ukraine will send a message to Putin that no one is just rolling over and letting him take what he wants.
We people made the monetary system and we can adjust it to our needs. There was a time where the barter system worked well. So combine them and off set the so called dept.
If he decides to push the button it doesn’t mater anyway now dose it?
I think man kind will go out with a whimper not a boom. JMO.

NATO and other countries have to rethink how to protect themselves and M____r Earth against ruthless leaders. “Nip it in the bud” so that the s__t Russia has pulled can never ever happen again. If a country even slightly talks aggressively then sanction the fuck out of them heavily prior to a war starting. Put the fucking fear into them that don’t even think about it or your ass will be severely slapped ASAP. Be pre-emptive not after the fact - FFS!!!

Now that is what I am talking about. See, open minds can create workable solutions.

I agree with the sanctions but take it a bit farther, Make them dead to the rest of the world. No one dose business with them or they suffer the same fate. Nothing in nothing out. Cut off internet and any thing else the rest of the world enjoys… Again JMO…

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