Discussion about Hamas attack on Israel and conflict (Operation Iron Sword)

Man everyone is on a witch hunt for each other… :pensive:

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Sad but very true I am afraid to say

according to John not

Again twisting my words? You’re not even good at doing it.

Again, let’s see:

You fully support Israel against Hamas which is correct (as we all do) But when you’re asked what support you have for the ordinary innocent people from Gaza which do not support Hamas but are under the siege from the Israeli side, what is your answer?

start reading what i write instead of what you want me to tell you

To be fair asking what babies should be chosen to be saved is a pretty lame question. Obviously all the babies should be saved. They are freaking babies. Neither sides babies is more guilty than the other…

according to John you have too choose which babies are allowed to live , thats why i stated the israelian babies over the HAMAS ( not palestine) babies

I wasn t talking you and I dont expect anything.I had an opinion.Period
Read what said Daniel Barenboim ,4 years ago and reply to him LoL

If the information is correct, the IDF has entered Gaza. Keep our fingers crossed that they find hostages.

they did a few short raids. in and out. they looked for leads on the hostages but no hostages were founds.

I am afraid there is no solution for these hostages. If they hide them in Hamas headquarters, the IDF has flattened them.

If they are hiding them in tunnels I don’t think Hamas will want to hand them over because they know they will report everything that is there, the locations, how many terrorists are inside, how many weapons…

Correct but there were a significant number of Germans many who stood up to the Nazis especially after Kristallnacht. Many were imprisoned and many emigrated. In Gaza the Palestinians would just be k__led or worse.

Your comment about the potential mega-deal with Saudi. Your prophecy partly correct as negotiations now on hold. However if and when they resume it is thought that the issue of Israeli concessions for the Palestinians would need to be on the table!

Well, what might those concessions be? How about retrospective reparations for stolen Palestinian Land and property? How about the right to vote? How about the right to buy building materials? How about the right to travel and without being searched? How about unrestricted supply of electricity? How about the same rights as the Israelis under the law? How about being able to get a job and provide for my family? How about unrestricted access to my place of worship?
The clincher of course would be a Palestinian state which I think some world leaders may have suggested in the past?

The thing that disgusts me is how successive Israeli Prime Ministers (although not all Israeli ministers it has to be said) have been happy to preside over this ethnic apartheid ever since 48.

You simply cannot subjugate and (effectively) imprison millions of people this way. Apartheid was abandoned in South Africa and quite right too.

It would be an irony indeed if the Saudis were to extract the very things that successive Israeli goverments have refused to allow for so long, the same people who coined the phrase ‘set my people free.’ Now there is an irony!

It is difficult for us to even begin to imagine what the Palestinians have had to endure over the decades as we take our own freedoms for granted. Just imagine if your local council said a couple of days ago that ‘all water and food is banned until further notice!’

So good luck I say to the Saudis. They could earn the undying gratitude of the Palestinians for generations and they could act as the worlds conscience.

The Izedin Al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, said that 13 hostages had also been k__led in Israeli attacks in the last 24 hours. Earlier in the week, they threatened that “any attack on the population without warning will result in the execution of one of the civilian hostages”.

My God, what are we doing as intelligent beings… :worried:

And if I tell you I am Santa Claus you believe it too I guess? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

C’mon Jabb, you’re on fire again because it’s “in the Israeli attack” in the quote. It is clear to me that for you, everything that comes from the Palestinian side will be a sham and fake. I have no problem with that. We all know that, we all know how media work.

Focus more on the fact that these poor people have come to a peace festival, have been massacred, many of them k____pped, and are now trembling for their lives at the barrels of guns, waiting to be shot or slaughtered. In the midst of war, bombardment, under the rubble.

The world hopes that they will be rescued, but I fear that many of them have already been k__led. Or will be, one way or another.

I am talking about the hostage situation. The same applies to the Israelis, who were still as___p one moment and dragging the bodies of their loved ones out of the rubble the next. I cannot imagine their horror.

That is why I say that I cannot believe what we are doing in this modern age.

The UN’s peacekeeping f___es said a “heavy exchange of fire erupted between Lebanon and Israel” in the areas the journalists had been positioned. Journalists at the scene said it was Israeli shelling.

Lebanon’s prime minister, Najib Mikati, said the journalists had been “targeted” by “direct Israeli bombing,” according to the state news agency.

maybe a littel of topic but this is an amazing video I saw today