# Oliver **URL:** \ **Category:** Archived Apartment Discussions\ **Tags:** realm21, oliver\ **Created:** [July 31, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172 "2021-07-31T22:44:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Gazza](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@Gazza](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Gazza)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/242 "2021-08-30T18:21:00Z")
why is it unfair ---
**Author:** ![jabbath1987](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/jabbath1987/32/727042_2.png) [@jabbath1987](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/jabbath1987)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/243 "2021-08-30T18:23:00Z")
Because pre-planned shows are against voyeurism and it’s not fair towards other places participants who act spontaneously. ---
**Author:** ![Gazza](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@Gazza](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Gazza)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/244 "2021-08-30T18:24:31Z")
its his job tho ---
**Author:** ![anon11413635](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a587f6/32.png) [@anon11413635](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/anon11413635)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/245 "2021-08-30T18:24:50Z")
Creating false behavior for views. If vhtv wasn’t a competition for views than who cares, but because they are all competing the site should create a level playing field. Allowing a tenant to create fake sex for views is unfair. ---
**Author:** ![jabbath1987](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/jabbath1987/32/727042_2.png) [@jabbath1987](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/jabbath1987)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/246 "2021-08-30T18:25:03Z")
Is job to film pathetic r\_\_e porn? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Gazza](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@Gazza](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Gazza)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/247 "2021-08-30T18:25:17Z")
dont fetish shame now ---
**Author:** ![Just\_In](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/just_in/32/59501_2.png) [@Just\_In](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Just_In)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/248 "2021-08-30T18:26:52Z")
I think the argument is made that this is very different from Web shows for tokens as this is a fully scripted production and Oliver isn’t portraying it other than a film shoot. ---
**Author:** ![Gazza](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@Gazza](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Gazza)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/249 "2021-08-30T18:27:43Z")
I enjoyed watching it seeing how the porn shoot was done and my voyeurism into that was good enough now i move on to something else ---
**Author:** ![FailS](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/fails/32/229098_2.png) [@FailS](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/FailS)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/250 "2021-08-30T18:27:58Z")
Genre of his shooting is irrelevant. VHTV shouldn’t be a place for shooting porn.. Make a side project for that and all the scripted +7 shows. ---
**Author:** ![anon11413635](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a587f6/32.png) [@anon11413635](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/anon11413635)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/251 "2021-08-30T18:28:33Z")
Yes, it is his job and he can do it off a voyeur site all he wants. What next poster boards with menus? Surely the line has to be drawn somewhere. I just think a cake shop should be all about making the best cakes and nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![Gazza](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@Gazza](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Gazza)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/252 "2021-08-30T18:30:08Z")
oh wait another place is filming and taking pictures i guess you all gonna be angry and upset about that now 😂 ---
**Author:** ![anon11413635](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a587f6/32.png) [@anon11413635](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/anon11413635)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/253 "2021-08-30T18:31:36Z")
If it’s faked activities for the purpose of getting views, then, yes, it’s not good. ---
**Author:** ![Gazza](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@Gazza](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Gazza)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/255 "2021-08-30T18:36:40Z")
sorry to burst your bubble though but this is all fake and none of it is actually real ---
**Author:** ![anon11413635](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a587f6/32.png) [@anon11413635](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/anon11413635)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/256 "2021-08-30T18:43:21Z")
That’s just not true. There is plenty of real on vhtv. But, unfortunately because vhtv allows these cheaters often it makes the tenants think they have to fake their life more too. It progresses the site into more contrived behavior. I was the one who placed Ary and George on vhtv and I know from talking to tenants that this pressure is real and the ones who just want to live their life on cam don’t like having to compete with porn shoots, camstars, and people who sit in from of cams for views. They know it’s not fair to them and it’s against what a voyeur site should be offering. ---
**Author:** ![Gazza](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@Gazza](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Gazza)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/257 "2021-08-30T18:45:40Z")
its not real ---
**Author:** ![anon11413635](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a587f6/32.png) [@anon11413635](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/anon11413635)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/258 "2021-08-30T18:47:39Z")
Not a very compelling argument. There is plenty that is real on vhtv. ---
**Author:** ![Gazza](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@Gazza](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Gazza)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/259 "2021-08-30T18:48:32Z")
they are all aware of the cams so they all perform for them hence its not really real the only way its truly real life is if they wernt aware the cams where there ---
**Author:** ![jabbath1987](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/jabbath1987/32/727042_2.png) [@jabbath1987](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/jabbath1987)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/260 "2021-08-30T18:53:17Z")
But I think it’s just wrong. Showing and acting something like a r\_\_e is just disgusting and VHTV should not be a platform for that. ---
**Author:** ![Rado07](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/0ea827/32.png) [@Rado07](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Rado07)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/261 "2021-08-30T18:54:05Z")
I am amused when people complain about what they see here A previous speaker said that nobody is f\_\_\_ed to look here, there are other apartments too Oliver shows us his hobby, maybe he lives from it. 👍 he just likes feet and he showed us. it is perhaps more of a reality here than in other apartments @Oliver: nice action .. I’m really looking forward to the Zee sisters on September 8th. I hope they both keep the appointment. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![anon11413635](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a587f6/32.png) [@anon11413635](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/anon11413635)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172/262 "2021-08-30T18:55:51Z")
That doesn’t make a difference. Maybe you’re new to this and you weren’t around when the focus of these sites was on voyeurism, as in fly on the wall type voyeurism. I agree that vhtv has progressed the genre into letting people think that what Oliver is doing here is voyeurism, but I know better and so does vhtv really. Unfortunately greed is pushing their decisions, not the desire to create the best voyeur site. [Previous page](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/oliver/172.md?page=14)