# Formula1 discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** All the other stuff\ **Created:** [March 3, 2023, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041 "2023-03-03T10:56:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 89
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1765 "2024-05-04T19:03:47Z")
In honesty, Alonso had a big share of blame there as well. ---
**Author:** ![Lukas156546](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/lukas156546/32/817864_2.png) [@Lukas156546](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Lukas156546)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1766 "2024-05-04T19:06:45Z")
yeah sure, he had to hit the brakes at the start to make sure that Lulu could fly like an idiot through the field , he looked like Kvyat there ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1767 "2024-05-04T19:10:50Z")
Well, Alonso went very wide on the corner, definitely let a massive gap there. ![bandicam 2024-05-04 20-09-11-929](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/e/2/b/e2b874be6cb63b86f63bdfced7301b93145d8fed.jpeg) ![bandicam 2024-05-04 20-09-19-898](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/9/4/4/94438b3d1fdffdf01534d9df96d4daa1827746cf.jpeg) ![bandicam 2024-05-04 20-09-28-155](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/6/9/1/691159b117904d02186b4020e0b89b0baf5872dc.jpeg) Not to say that be bumped into Stroll as well first… ---
**Author:** ![Lukas156546](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/lukas156546/32/817864_2.png) [@Lukas156546](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Lukas156546)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1768 "2024-05-04T19:11:36Z")
so he had to kick out Norris then? ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1769 "2024-05-04T19:12:24Z")
Not him, Stroll did. So yes, that was Alonso’s fault more than Hamilton’s ---
**Author:** ![Lukas156546](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/lukas156546/32/817864_2.png) [@Lukas156546](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Lukas156546)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1770 "2024-05-04T19:14:03Z")
you seen the onboard from Lulu? that explains a lot ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1771 "2024-05-04T19:14:21Z")
You can see it very clearly on my pics. Hamilton was miles away when Alonso bumped into Stroll ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1772 "2024-05-04T19:15:29Z")
Yes, he went like a lunatic for that gap. No doubts about it. But the bumping was made by Alonso before Hamilton even being there ---
**Author:** ![Lukas156546](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/lukas156546/32/817864_2.png) [@Lukas156546](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Lukas156546)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1773 "2024-05-04T19:15:32Z")
he did not have to break before the corner and could use the three cars he took out as an anchor? come on John ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1774 "2024-05-04T19:17:33Z")
This is the moment Alonso bumped into Stroll and pushed him into Norris. You can clearly see where Hamilton was… miles away ![bandicam 2024-05-04 20-16-37-712](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/f/3/a/f3a18fa83dd4cfa63c755d6de22ae73e86da5c02.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lukas156546](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/lukas156546/32/817864_2.png) [@Lukas156546](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Lukas156546)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1775 "2024-05-04T19:18:57Z")
there even would have been enough space if Lulu would have braked and taken the inner line alongside the kerbs, just look at the video you posted in slowmotion ![Naamloos](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/6/5/b/65be6942ae7b9f1efe6fa43a3b2835b25987fbcc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1776 "2024-05-04T19:20:44Z")
There is no doubt about it. But the contact between Alonso and Stroll happened before Lulu even got there. That’s what i’m saying. You can not see it from Lulu’s cockpit but very clearly from this aerial view. It was visible also live when the race started ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1777 "2024-05-04T19:22:46Z")
Forget about Lulu in that pic. He is far away. That’s when Alonso bumped into Stroll… ![bandicam 2024-05-04 20-23-53-937](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/8/4/3/8436085126bb6219df0d77f37992d8331c495453.jpeg) The one who didn’t break and took the inner line as was supposed to do, was Alonso…Lulu went for that gap like a lunatic (correct) but the mistake/bumping was done already ---
**Author:** ![Lukas156546](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/lukas156546/32/817864_2.png) [@Lukas156546](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Lukas156546)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1778 "2024-05-04T19:28:20Z")
alonso tried to keep space for the Torpedo\>\> he is one of the few drivers who uses his head AND his mirrors ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1779 "2024-05-04T19:30:24Z")
I don’t think so, Alonso couldn’t even see Lulu. He did a mistake and didn’t close the gap. In his mirror was a Haas car, Lulu came from the outside ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1780 "2024-05-04T19:34:16Z")
Look how wide he was. He let a massive gap there. If you play the video, it looks more like he wanted to push away Stroll than closing the gap. ![bandicam 2024-05-04 20-32-23-465](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/6/d/2/6d207c74b15a518112f58bf99fdba4d4f8c135c2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lukas156546](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/lukas156546/32/817864_2.png) [@Lukas156546](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Lukas156546)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1781 "2024-05-04T19:36:05Z")
ok 🙂 all good for now, they will meet again 🙂 in about 20 minutes ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1782 "2024-05-04T19:40:23Z")
You know that i am far from being a Lulu fan. In fact, i am a big Alonso one. But in this case, it is obvious not only Lulu’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Lukas156546](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/lukas156546/32/817864_2.png) [@Lukas156546](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Lukas156546)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1783 "2024-05-04T20:04:04Z")
![afbeelding](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/c/2/b/c2b5bc7f969b9d440b5b95f44e3db9256e1b2889.png) ![afbeelding](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/2/7/0/270ecc3ab20ede6c0b8a4eb5c7057ce159a48270.png) ![afbeelding](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/uploads/default/original/4X/c/3/6/c360ebdf45c28aa45314720d5f01fd53a9eef722.png) Conclusion, nobody’s fault, all good ---
**Author:** ![Lukas156546](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/lukas156546/32/817864_2.png) [@Lukas156546](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Lukas156546)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/formula1-discussion/28041/1784 "2024-05-04T20:20:38Z")
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