# Donations **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 3, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375 "2021-11-03T19:35:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Max\_Muster](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/13edae/32.png) [@Max\_Muster](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Max_Muster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/21 "2022-08-23T22:46:41Z")
I would say that demands are already being made indirectly through the forum. Be it just that certain people come or you want to see certain sexual acts. Payment is indirect, which means that more viewers mean more money. ---
**Author:** ![letsdothis](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/letsdothis/32/63487_2.png) [@letsdothis](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/letsdothis)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/22 "2022-08-23T22:49:54Z")
> [@John78](#): > > Tenants are only getting the donation and nothing else, **nor who donated and for what purpose** Why does that make any difference, at all? A payment is a payment. Do you really think that not knowing who made the payment means it’s not a porn site? A payment is a payment. ---
**Author:** ![letsdothis](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/letsdothis/32/63487_2.png) [@letsdothis](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/letsdothis)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/23 "2022-08-23T23:23:17Z")
> [@John78](#): > > We do not pay them as in Chaturbate to perform sexual acts, How is it any different? Every month on VHTV, a portion of every subscriber’s payment goes to the tenants. On CB every month, a portion of the tokens paid by the viewers goes to the people on CB. The only difference is what it’s called; tokens vs subscriber payments. You only pay for a view through the cams, but you and I both know that EVERYBODY here comes to watch naked people and watch them have sex. I have nothing but respect for you, as well, and I’m happy, more than you know, that we could have a civil discussion about this. You might not believe that this is a porn site, but I will always disagree that this is a voyeur site. ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 11:38pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/24 "2022-08-23T23:38:26Z")
I can explain to you how this site and CB have nothing in common except nudity and sex. Probably the truth about being a porn site or a voyeur site seats somewhere in the middle. Some Realms are more porn others more voyeurism. I will pm you if ok to explain about this and CB. ---
**Author:** ![letsdothis](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/letsdothis/32/63487_2.png) [@letsdothis](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/letsdothis)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/25 "2022-08-23T23:40:51Z")
> [@Teresa & Goldie](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/teresa-goldie/20031/874): > > Any further off topic will be moved now. In all fairness, I was replying to something above this before you made this comment, so I didn’t know you said this until after I posted it. ---
**Author:** ![letsdothis](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/letsdothis/32/63487_2.png) [@letsdothis](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/letsdothis)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/26 "2022-08-23T23:45:03Z")
> [@John78](#): > > **I will pm you** if ok to explain about this and CB. Yes, of course, it’s fine. ---
**Author:** ![WolfieSmith](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@WolfieSmith](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/WolfieSmith)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/27 "2022-08-24T14:07:20Z")
Sure i know why i come onto this site and a lot of it relates to naked girls and sex, BUT i have donated half a dozen times with absolutely no connection to the amount of sex or actions i have liked. Most of them were Ukrainia related - i felt that the individuals needed as much help as they could get and sending something direct i knew it would go to someone i liked and admired, rather than just into a large fund not knowing what would happen to it. A couple of payments were just to nice people, where i thought they could do with some help. My only point is that i do not consider that i am paying them to perform. ---
**Author:** ![ed2](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/ed2/32/265196_2.png) [@ed2](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/ed2)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/28 "2024-06-25T23:49:44Z")
Another question. It’s extremely wierd that this isn’t written anywhere, to the point that it looks really shady. **What is the value of the coins when you donate them?** We can buy coins in different quanta for different prices, but when we donate them, what are they worth? If we send 100 coins, roughly how much do they get? This should have been written on the pop-up when you click on the donate button. ---
**Author:** ![robwin](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/robwin/32/287497_2.png) [@robwin](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/robwin)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/29 "2024-06-26T02:08:34Z")
Well CB and similar sites pay the participants i think about 0.1% of the tips given so for every 100 tips the participant gets roughly 10. No doubt similar figures may apply to the VH system but i have no way of knowing of the exact % the participant gets. But you can bet your bottom dollar it ain’t very much and VH do very well out of it quite possibly. That’s one reason i will never buy any coins to donate as I think it is a complete rip off for the subscriber. The fact that it isn’t stated anywhere makes me very wary to start with. Even if the participant gets 50% why should the other 50% get taken. If anyone knows better then do advise us as i would only be too pleased to get proved wrong. ---
**Author:** ![ed2](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/ed2/32/265196_2.png) [@ed2](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/ed2)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/31 "2024-06-26T02:28:50Z")
I see further up in this thread, they say it’s 70% to the participants, and 30% to VHTV. If that is correct, I think it sounds pretty fair. But 70% of what? We can buy coins at different rates. Depending what plan you used. If you buy 30 coins for $5, then 100 coins can be worth $16. If you buy 1000 coins for $100, then 100 coins can be worth $10. ---
**Author:** ![robwin](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/robwin/32/287497_2.png) [@robwin](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/robwin)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/32 "2024-06-26T02:31:28Z")
Well that sounds more reassuring but even so it wouldn’t do any harm to give the exact percentage participants received just to put viewers minds at rest and to know exactly what they are giving to the participants. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![robwin](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/robwin/32/287497_2.png) [@robwin](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/robwin)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/35 "2024-06-26T02:41:11Z")
Appreciate your point, but why should the rates vary in the first place as it just gives rise to possible speculation that the whole thing is a sales drive with discounts available which in my view is not the purpose, which is to purely give money to participants if you feel inclined to do so. Then again to have 30% deducted is a large chunk of any donation, if this is correct. ---
**Author:** ![John78](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/john78/32/326498_2.png) [@John78](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/John78)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 5:40am UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/36 "2024-06-26T05:40:55Z")
> [@ed2](#): > > they say it’s 70% to the participants, and 30% to VHTV That’s totally incorrect. The donations are not going to the participants but to their managers. From there, it is totally at their discretion if the participants are getting something or not. ---
**Author:** ![ed2](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/ed2/32/265196_2.png) [@ed2](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/ed2)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/37 "2024-06-26T13:00:08Z")
> [@John78](#): > > That’s totally incorrect. The donations are not going to the participants but to their managers. From there, it is totally at their discretion if the participants are getting something or not. Those numbers came from @stanley, I don’t know where he had it from. ---
**Author:** ![stanley](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@stanley](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/stanley)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/38 "2024-06-26T14:12:56Z")
These percentages were posted publically here on the forum by VHTV. 70% to the participant 10% to the manager 10% to VHTV 10% for processing fees If you believe the manager has not passed the 70% on to the participant, raise a support ticket for VHTV to investigate. > [@Donation option to recurring guests](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donation-option-to-recurring-guests/5905/5): > > @Norwood20324 thank you for your idea, we will take that into consideration, and it fits nicely into what we plan to introduce in terms of future functionality at VHTV. Donations go to Participants. They receive 70% of the sum paid by the donor. The math is: 10% goes to cover processing costs 10% stays at VHTV 10% is to be kept by manager 70% is what Participants receive We will add more information on actual donation value within donation modal window in upcoming versions of this feature. ---
**Author:** ![iain](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/iain/32/237011_2.png) [@iain](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/iain)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/39 "2024-06-26T17:17:21Z")
Post deleted by author duplicate answer. ---
**Author:** ![Mohrchi](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/mohrchi/32/195599_2.png) [@Mohrchi](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Mohrchi)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/40 "2024-06-26T18:26:54Z")
The quoted post from VHTV is now almost 3 years old. And they still haven’t managed to define the actual donation value of the coins… I think nothing will happen in the next few years. ---
**Author:** ![Eros](https://forum-cdn.spyhub.tv/user_avatar/forum.spyhub.tv/eros/32/830725_2.png) [@Eros](https://forum.spyhub.tv/u/Eros)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375/41 "2024-11-25T23:20:56Z")
I haven’t seen that list but I think VHTV & manager shouldn’t receive a percentage because it’s a Donation for the Participant [Previous page](https://forum.spyhub.tv/t/donations/8375.md?page=1)